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To: ravenwolf

I think we all know that Jesus is the rock.
He is not just the rock he is every thing
to us.

But some would have us believe that he was
just joshing Peter by calling Peter a rock
and I believe that is very bad thinking.

Some are deliberately trying to make Peter
look like a screw up in order to deny what
the Catholic Church teaches.

I get the idea from reading scripture that
the church has filled in the voids with their
own wishes.

Jesus made it very plain that there was not
to be any one with authority over the others.

That does not rule out some one taking the
lead, when Jesus met peter he read him like
a book, he knew that Peter would take the
lead and we have all of the proof in acts
that he did.

I see no hint in the scriptures of Peter being
Pope but if there is such a thing as a man being
great then Peter was great.

I also see no hint that we should use Mary as an
intercessor, but if there is such a thing as a great
woman then Mary was also great.


344 posted on 01/14/2018 8:29:46 AM PST by ravenwolf (Left lane tdrivers and tailgaters are the smallest peabrains in the world.)
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To: ravenwolf
I think we all know that Jesus is the rock.

I think there is a LOT of verse in this thread indicating that.

Notice how NONE of them have been discussed!?

357 posted on 01/14/2018 1:33:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ravenwolf
John 18:33-38 esv
 
 
 
33 So Pilate entered his headquarters again and called Jesus and said to him, “Are you the King of the Jews?”
34 Jesus answered, “Do you say this of your own accord, or did others say it to you about me?”
35 Pilate answered, “Am I a Jew? Your own nation and the chief priests have delivered you over to me. What have you done?”
36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”
37 Then Pilate said to him, “So you are a king?”
     Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. For this purpose I was born and for this purpose I have come into the world—to bear witness to the truth. jEveryone who is of the truth listens to my voice.”
38 Pilate said to him, “What is truth?”
 
my voice: not Mary's, not ECFs, not pope's, not Magisterium, not catechism lessons...
 
 
my voice... 

358 posted on 01/14/2018 1:47:32 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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