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To: Mark17
I just want to know, how ...

Have an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

Galatians, Catholic chapter five, Protestant verses nineteen to twenty six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

353 posted on 01/14/2018 1:06:20 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981; aMorePerfectUnion
Have an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

The Bible in Jeremiah 17:9 says the heart is deceitful and wicked, so I disagree with that part of your statement. You will have to define what you mean, by “having heard the word, keep it” because your thoughts on that phrase, may be different than mine. It still sounds like salvation by works, rather than salvation producing good works.
Did you run that by a priest first, or did you do a YOPIOS? I do that all the time, but then again, I can do that, since I am not a Catholic. I was a Catholic in the distant past, and was told I needed a priest, to interpret scripture. Now, I do YOPIOS all the time. It works for me.

359 posted on 01/14/2018 1:53:12 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: af_vet_1981; Mark17
Mark: I just want to know, how you are going to bluff your way into Heaven?

AFVET: Have an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

At which point you will fail miserably beyond your wildest imaginations.

NOBODY. EVER. had a good and honest heart.

Nor can anyone, having heard the word, keep it.

Fruit? What fruit? What do you consider fruit that will gain you entrance into heaven?

380 posted on 01/14/2018 7:00:48 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: af_vet_1981; Mark17
Mark post 352: I just want to know, how you are going to bluff your way into Heaven?

AFVET post 353: Have an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

At which point you will fail miserably beyond your wildest imaginations.

NOBODY. EVER. had a good and honest heart.

Nor can anyone, having heard the word, keep it.

Fruit? What fruit? What do you consider fruit that will gain you entrance into heaven?

381 posted on 01/14/2018 7:03:25 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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