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All Hell Breaks Loose - German Bishops officially open up Holy Communion to Non-Catholics
Rorate Caeli ^ | February 22, 2018 | New Catholic

Posted on 02/22/2018 8:33:27 PM PST by ebb tide

The Francis Effect meeting the German Heresiarchy leads to an explosive decision of cataclysmic consequences.


Naturally, this Rome will not reject this aberration. This Vatican will welcome it. This pontificate will rejoice in it.

Report and translations from CNA/EWTN:

(Excerpt) Read more at rorate-caeli.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: discernment; francischurch; sacrilege
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To: ealgeone
Are you, a non-priest, saying that O'brien, a Roman Catholic priest is wrong?

Get an answer yet?

161 posted on 02/25/2018 5:30:32 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Salvation; BipolarBob
Question for you? Did the Bible come from oral tradition or Holy Tradition?

Neither.

It came as men were moved by God to write it and that happened either before or very soon after the death of Christ.

They were penned or dictated by the men who lived at that time.

Roman Catholicism cannot take credit for Scripture, which is what Catholics regularly try to do on these threads.

162 posted on 02/25/2018 5:34:24 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom
Begrudging acknowledgement of him is how I'd call it.
163 posted on 02/25/2018 5:36:01 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Religion Moderator

Thanks for clarifying that.


164 posted on 02/25/2018 5:43:40 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Religion Moderator; metmom

Thanks for this clarification.


165 posted on 02/25/2018 5:44:11 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you: to act justly, to love tenderly, and to walk humbly with your God)
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To: ealgeone

At the very least.


166 posted on 02/25/2018 5:45:42 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

I really didn’t understand the question or its purpose. It seemed like a trick question to me. Although wrote by men it is really a book from God telling us our purpose in life and where we came from and what our future is. It is a miracle we have access to it. So many tried to stifle it in the past but God had other plans.


167 posted on 02/25/2018 5:47:13 PM PST by BipolarBob (At one time I held the world record as the worlds youngest person on the planet.)
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To: Salvation

One can be saved without communion. It is a beautiful gift but not strictly necessary to be saved.


168 posted on 02/25/2018 8:24:37 PM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Religion Moderator

Can I ask why islam is still considered a religion here


169 posted on 02/26/2018 3:36:55 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: BlessedBeGod
And who are in a state of grace.

ALL who accept and proclaim Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior are in a state of Grace.

Read Romans.

170 posted on 02/26/2018 3:53:45 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Jesus built the church on Himself, NOT a sinful, flawed human being!

The entire premise that the Catholic church is built on Peter hinges on the misinterpretation of one line in the Bible where Jesus asks Peter who Peter says Jesus is.

Upon Peter's answer that Jesus is the Christ, Jesus proclaims on this rock, the rock of TRUTH, His church will be built.

As a former Catholic who was born, baptized, raised, attended CCD, received my first communion, confirmation and was married in the church, the only qualm I have with the Catholic church is its claim that it is the one "true" church and that those who do not belong to it are going to hell.

That is factually not true.

The book of Romans, written by the Apostle Paul tells us that Salvation is available to all, Jew and Gentile who recognize and acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Son of God, our Lord and Savior.

Paul is quite clear as to who Salvation is available to. No one can deny Salvation to others simply by declaring their church as the "one true church" as the One True Church is that which belongs to Jesus Christ, not a man.

171 posted on 02/26/2018 4:06:46 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I totally agree with you! I, too, “was was born, baptized, raised, attended CCD, received my first communion, confirmation and was married in the church (the first time)”. However, I was thrown out of Catholic school in the 2nd grade because I dared to question the nuns when they taught that if you weren’t a Catholic you were going to hell. You see, I lived in a very mixed neighborhood and most of my friends were either Jewish or Protestant. When I had the temerity to question a


172 posted on 02/26/2018 4:36:47 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: usconservative

Sorry, accidentally hit enter. To finish: I questioned how a loving God could condemn people to Hell when they believed in another religion. They told my parents that I wasn’t welcome back the next year. When my marriage went bad, the Priest I went to for help told me that if I was a better wife my husband wouldn’t beat me.

I’m now going to a non-denominational Church that talks about a loving God and is grace-based! We believe in a relationship with God/Jesus, NOT religion. Big difference.


173 posted on 02/26/2018 4:41:58 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; ealgeone
"Yet you seem to avoid the Catechism --- which IS authoritative --- like a wee little diablo avoids Holy Water"

You need to refrain from inferring that a poster is the devil.

Also stop telling ealgeone to read the catechism over and over again.

He has already told you he has read it.

You need to click on my name at the bottom of this post and familiarize yourself with the Religion Forum guidelines.

174 posted on 02/26/2018 7:50:31 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank you for this correction. I was wrong, and I apologize to ealgeone and to you. I won’t do that again.


175 posted on 02/27/2018 5:05:23 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Amen! I agree completely. I also questioned the teachings of the church as a cradle Catholic. Even at a young age, I remember knowing in my heart that something was missing.

The Lord seeks an ongoing relationship with all those who surrender to Christ in faith. It is NOT the fellowship with other believers (going to "church") that makes us God's own but we have fellowship with one another BECAUSE of our relationship with the Savior. Together we are heirs and joint heirs with each other and with Christ. It comes to us by the grace of God through faith and not of ourselves - not of works, lest any should boast.

176 posted on 02/27/2018 3:13:14 PM PST by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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