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The Election of Francis Was Orchestrated [Msgr. Livi]
Gloria TV ^ | 4/25/18

Posted on 04/30/2018 4:56:11 PM PDT by marshmallow

Francis Was Elected To Carry Out a Lutheran Reform

Monsignor Antonio Livi, a former dean and professor at the Lateran University in Rome, formerly incardinated in the Opus Dei, told Gloria.tv in an exclusive interview that Pope Francis was elected to carry out a – quote – “reform in the Lutheran sense”. According to Livi, in the new Lutheran church-to-come the pope, the bishops and the priests will not be anymore an expression of the sacred but of politics.

The Term “People” Is A Rhetorical Image

Monsignor Livi criticizes the term “people” which Pope Francis loves to apply to the Church. Livi points out that “people” is a mere rhetorical image. Quote, “The people is made up of a multitude of different persons, therefore nobody ever knows what ‘the people’ wants.” And, “There are those in the people who are full of faith like Padre Pio and those who have no faith at all.”

The Election of Francis Was Orchestrated

On the basis of many historical witnesses Monsignor Livi is -quote – “absolutely certain” that the election of Pope Francis was orchestrated. He also points out that it is absurd to claim that Francis is pope because the Holy Spirit wanted so. Quote, “The Holy Spirit inspires everybody so that they may do good, but not everybody who is inspired by the Holy Spirit, effectivly does good.”

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1 posted on 04/30/2018 4:56:11 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

I’ve long held the opinion that this selection was NOT inspired by the Holy Spirit.


2 posted on 04/30/2018 4:57:26 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Agreed. However, it is at least making us all take stock and think about what the Faith really is, what the Church really is, etc. And I think more and more people are beginning to realize that it is up to them to express and defend the Faith, even against the (in my opinion, fraudulently elected) Pope himself.


3 posted on 04/30/2018 5:01:10 PM PDT by livius
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To: marshmallow

While I do not pretend to understand its significance, I have said since the beginning of Francis pontificate I DO believe IT IS significant Benedict is still alive.


4 posted on 04/30/2018 5:07:25 PM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: marshmallow
I thought the other guy was supposed to be OK until somehow they forced him out and put in Papa Frankie. The other fellow was lucky they didn't kill him.
 
5 posted on 04/30/2018 5:10:43 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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To: marshmallow

I have heard church officials imply that Soros and Obama were behind Benedict’s stepping down and Francis election. However, there is a paucity of proof of this that I’ve found.


6 posted on 04/30/2018 5:11:19 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: marshmallow

How is the election of a Marxist Pope somehow in furtherance of a Lutheran reform?


7 posted on 04/30/2018 5:16:19 PM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
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To: Salvation

Agreed. It was hard to acknowledge at first blush, but plainly a foreign pope was in place over the Church of the ages, with nothing in common with the Catholic Church.

Doubt the Lutherans would have the man, Bergoglio.


8 posted on 04/30/2018 5:26:04 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Ed/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: marshmallow

I’m a confessional Lutheran.

Frank is not Lutheran.

Not saying he is Catholic either, but maybe Episcopal (low church), or ELCA.


9 posted on 04/30/2018 5:30:12 PM PDT by redgolum
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To: redgolum

Well, I’m not a Lutheran myself but I can tell you for sure Frank is a Jackass.


10 posted on 04/30/2018 5:34:15 PM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

He took the coward’s way out and now the world has Francis.


11 posted on 04/30/2018 5:38:50 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: marshmallow

The monsignor should read some of Luther’s books.


12 posted on 04/30/2018 5:55:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: papertyger
Yes. In the days of the Borgia popes they would have just poisoned him.
13 posted on 04/30/2018 6:02:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: marshmallow

As soon as I knew his origin country, his religious order, and his new name, I knew it was orchestrated.


14 posted on 04/30/2018 6:13:31 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: hinckley buzzard

If only...the problem is that Frankie has stocked the Vatican with his buddies and they’d poison anybody who opposed him. Actually, they’re already doing the modern non-fatal equivalent: silencing them, getting them fired, and making them non-persons. Frankie is a Marxist, and he has all the techniques down pat.


15 posted on 04/30/2018 6:17:49 PM PDT by livius
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16 posted on 04/30/2018 6:44:28 PM PDT by bitt (Back when we had CHILD CONTROL we really didn't need GUN CONTROL)
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To: LIConFem

I think it means he would reform the Catholic Church by diminishing or deleting many Catholic beliefs and maybe changing or watering down our beliefs. He would make it more like Protestant churches. He is so political and getting rid of certain Catholic beliefs I believe are his goals.


17 posted on 04/30/2018 6:52:25 PM PDT by Citizen Soldier ("And I was born to pull turnips!" Demelza Poldark)
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To: Citizen Soldier

I think we were clearly lied to about why Benedict left. I think this pope is not the True Pope, and more like the Anti=Christ. I sincerely think he does not believe in God.


18 posted on 04/30/2018 7:07:05 PM PDT by DaleGrrl
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
***Soros and Obama were behind Benedict’s stepping down and Francis election. However, there is a paucity of proof of this that I’ve found***

True. I have two sources - not available to me right now - but they lack real credibility... add HRC to make it a trinity. There were a number of other sources, but none added further credibility to those I already had.

19 posted on 04/30/2018 7:22:05 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: marshmallow

Bump


20 posted on 04/30/2018 7:24:54 PM PDT by foreverfree
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