Posted on 05/20/2018 12:47:05 PM PDT by NRx
In her Nobel Prize-winning book Secondhand Time: The Last of the Soviets, Svetlana Alexievich interviews scores of Russians who lament the loss of the Soviet Empire, even as they recount its horrors in excruciating detail. The Soviet Empire may have been barbaric, but at least they were great! The world feared them! They had defeated Hitler! (No thanks to the British and Americans.)
Several unapologetic Soviets complain they lost their beloved empire without a shot. Why didn’t blood flow in the streets in her defense? They blame Mikhail Gorbachev. As one Soviet observes, the Communist system could withstand any challenge from below. It could suppress any revolution. Except one. What if the party’s leader was no longer a true believer? What if Gorbachev betrayed the cause from within the Kremlin, from the very top, where no one could stop him?
Ross Douthat ponders an analogous takeover within the Vatican in his new book, To Change the Church: Pope Francis and the Future of Catholicism. What if Pope Francis isn’t Catholic? What if he aims to overturn centuries of dogma? What if he plans to stack the College of Cardinals with liberal allies who will ensure his revolution can’t soon be reversed? What if he banishes his conservative critics to the church’s periphery? Who, then, will enforce the teaching on sexuality and marriage preserved against Western cultural trends by the late Pope John Paul II and self-titled Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI? Indeed, how can the vicar of Christ so confidently dismiss the words of Christ on marriage and adultery from the Gospels?
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Doesn't matter; neither is Jorge Mario Bergoglio.
Sorry. No one has made ebbtide the arbiter of who is or is not a Roman Catholic.
Ya'll have told us for years that once a Roman Catholic, always a Roman Catholic.
And I again see you for some reason refuse to affirm the verse posted.
Only a denier of Christ would do so.
Don't let that pride get in your way.
Well thats the thing about opinions. Everyone has one. Some are a lot better than others.
And the Leftist reaction to Francis should tell anyone who cares about our future every thing that they need to know about Francis the Heretic.
Oh, whew!
All is right in the universe.
In case you missed it he is the properly elected head of the Roman church and will remain so until he dies or you guys oust him. According to Catholicism you aren’t catholic if you don’t submit to him. Quite a quandary isn’t it
It's even more extreme than that for the Roman Catholic.
"Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff."
Unam states the Roman Catholic cannot be saved unless they are subject to the pope. So when all of these Roman Catholics say they aren't following the pope they are saying they are not saved based on Unam Sanctam.
Fortunately, this is not a New Testament teaching.
Argentine + Jesuit + Francis = Marxist.
If he was baptized Catholic, he’s Catholic.
We keep getting told on FR that *Once a Catholic, always a Catholic* and that Catholic baptism leaves an indelible mark on the soul.
Right sal?
If he’s Catholic, he’s yours, like it or not.
Seems that way.
It doesn’t work that way.
To my knowledge, none of Francis’ pronouncements to date have been Ex-Cathedra and therefore are not matters of Dogma that must be obeyed.
I assume you are not Catholic. You can argue we’re wrong to be Catholic, but don’t tell us how to be one.
Are you also arguing you’re not subject to the pope.....even though Unam Sanctam says you have to be.
Amazing isn’t it. Roman Catholics seem to flip flop more than the clintons.
No LCMS member wants anything to do with the Roman church other than to expose them to the Gospel of Christ without all the Roman add ons
So you guys get to throw out any of your magisterium that was pronounced before you were born? Cool!
Yes that is your belief. And you are bound by all of it including that you must be subject to the pope. Those of us that see it for the heresy it is not so much. It’s your doctrine and you are bound by it not us. Have fun
You state your magisterium is equal to Scripture, not me. So you are the one stating you are bound by your doctrine as if God said it. I’m not telling you anything other than your often quoted Roman wisdom.
You really don’t know what you’re talking about.
True! They practice the cardinal rule of protestant societies: it’s OK to bash Catholics.
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