Posted on 06/08/2018 8:54:57 AM PDT by Salvation
That phrase would be out of place in the more polite, agree to disagree, calumny-free discussions, but it seems accurate enough to me for all the rest, based upon observation and perspective.
I’ve never been married, but I’ve been through some divorces, both in and out of the families that accept me, and the Protestant v. Catholic family feuds here are similar and often end the same way.
Mary, probably because of the rank and position given to Her by that side of the family, becomes fair game in those fights and that’s usually when I cringe the most.
Sooner or later, Mary ends up looking like purposeful collateral damage.
She’s the basis for the fight which becomes that thing the family is fighting over. And, kinda like the sports car that gets keyed or the big screen TV or whatever that gets smashed in the heat of battle, eventually, the “go after” Her, too.
I watch and try to understand. Some of us? Clearly, we like to fight. And some believe they are called to fight this fight, that they are doing God’s Will.
Irreconcilably, both sides are certain their interpretation is 100% Biblically correct based upon the same Scriptures.
Fascinating. I wonder who is winning.
I pray for our discernment before destruction.
Read the Bible! What the Holy Spirit says is found there. You appear to want to avoid listening to Him, given the mysticism you keep surfacing, beyond anything found in The Word of God. Do you believe the Bible is The Word of God?
I’m wrong about things often enough to know I’ve not been blessed with the Grace of discernment, as near as I can tell.
I am waiting for the Holy Spirit and Wisdom to explain and help me understand many things, especially about Revelation and about the woman clothed in the sun.
So many opinions to sort through! I wonder who’s right?
The Truth about Fatima, Portugal is surfacing in spite of Catholic deceptions accumulated over a century: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCdo2w-Zxuc
The clues are clear, if one has a working knowledge of the entire Bible. The woman is Israel (the twelve star crown) and the child is Jesus (see Daniel Chptr 9).
From what I’ve read about Fatima and then the resulting history, I can see how it all fits together such that it could be what it says it is.
And to me, the human psychology revealed by the Church throughout the years afterwards and in response to what was written also gives support to that theory.
Friend, regarding the supernatural and Mary, how do you separate the two?
For me, the main support for the Bible being what it says it is IS the supernatural.
Without the supernatural, to me the Bible is just another oddly written book of history, names, fables, fantasy and stories. Why bother?
Nope, Mary is part of the supernatural Holy Family and stuff like Fatima?
That’s just how They roll.
Garabandal is the one I wonder about and I hope it’s true. Beyond that? Don’t know...
I’ll add it to the list.
Watch the video/audio interview. The apparition at Fatima was not from God according tot he parish priest of the area at that time. AND the 1917 truth is very different from the mythos fabricated in 28 and 35 by the Catholic Church. Learn about ‘testing the spirits’ because Satan is coming with all signs and lying wonders. If you do not go up in the Rapture you will need edumacation to avoid the great deception which will follow.
A LOT more titles than I've compiled (so far...)
Well I 'cringe' when I read all of the NON-biblical stuff the Roman church has MADE up and formed into a creature named 'MARY'.
It's that ILLUSION that we Prots 'go after'.
We will NOT wear 'her' protective amulet nor chant 'her' required mantras!!
You are doing just fine, and have a humble spirit that's refreshing.
No; it 'pointed' to itself!!
Count the I's and me's!!
(Given to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche)
| 1 | Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive powerful graces. |
| 2. | I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary. |
| 3. | The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies |
| 4. | It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of people from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means. |
| 5. | The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish. |
| 6. | Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying Himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise Him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life. |
| 7. | Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church. |
| 8. | Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plentitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the Saints in Paradise. |
| 9. | I shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary. |
| 10. | The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven. |
| 11. | You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary. |
| 12. | All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities. |
| 13. | I have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death |
| 14. | All who recite the Rosary are my children, and brothers and sisters of my only Son, Jesus Christ. |
| 15. | Devotion of my Rosary is a great sign of predestination. |
"The Most Holy Virgin in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Rosary to such an extent that there is no problem,
no matter how difficult it is, wheter temporal or above all spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families...that cannot be solved by the Rosary.
There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary."
Sister Lucia dos Santos
Look up ConfirmaTION BIAS
It works on both sides of the aisle.
Nope.
One side throws in TONS of 'tradition' to try to make it's point.
Really??!!
Proverbs 3:5-6 NIV
Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.
Let's try some easy math:
There are approximately 1.2 billion Catholics world wide;
If merely 1% of them 'ask' Mary for help just once each day;
that means that 12 million separate prayers are headed Mary's direction every day.
Given that there are 86,400 seconds per day... (24 hours times 60 minutes times 60 seconds)
...that means that Mary has to handle approximately 139 'requests' per second!
Purty good fer someone NOT 'divine'!
I am astonished. I think that I'll just stick with Mary.
Resplendent car, in which her clients mount to heaven. 4-239.
Okay. I would think that resplendent chariot would be more in line with Biblical language.
Regarding Fatima, does Satan work against himself?
Because such signs and wonders like the Fatima material made me turn to God even more.
It got me excited and motivativated me to seek Him more, because such signs and wonders prove to my rational side that my belief in what it can’t see is valid because it is real.
Such things make me want to know more about God and Satan, both, making me learn more and thus making me even more wary than I had been.
In my case, all of that works against Satan, so if Fatima was his idea, it sucked.
If Mary apparitions and signs are not from God, then they are from Satan. Catholicism uses Mariology to hold people in limbo, teaching them that they must express fealty to the CATHOLIC Sacraments throughout their life in order to earn salvation after a visit (long or short) to purgatory. Pulling Catholics into a service to Mary keeps them in Catholicism. Satan wins more souls by keeping them focused upon deceits he has arranged.
You say the Mariology things have caused you to be more seeking toward God and about the nature of satan, yet you are seeking more to latch onto regarding the mysticism you are now into. Perhaps you see a problem with that? or not. Only Holy Spirit can clear your cobwebs.
BTW, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 will help you sort out the issue of who and when regarding the Rapture of all believers in Jesus as their savior sent from GOD throughout the ages since Jesus resurrected. ALL believers, whether dead or alive at the event timing will be caught up together in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and do what Jesus told His Disciples in John14 ... go to the Father’s House where there are many rooms.
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