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To: Bob434
prophets in old testament said Christ would appear- He did- Adn that He would die on the cross- He did- The cross was not used at the time of those prophets- they had no way of even knowing about that method of execution

There is nothing in the Hebrew Bible about J*sus or crucifixion.

Chrstians take such scriptures as Isaiah 53 and Psalm 2 out of context and insist they must be referring to J*sus because that's what the "new testament" says. If one didn't already accept the "new testament" from the get-go, one would never see these scriptures as prophesying J*sus.

But of course I've pointed this out a zillion times and challenged anyone to offer proof but no one even tries. Chrstianity is just true for no apparent reason, and apparently Moses was an Independent Baptist.

102 posted on 06/17/2018 7:01:34 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Against Theocracy? Repeal the laws against murder!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

sorry but there are over 300 that Christ fulfilled- more than enough for everyone to know without a doubt Christ was the fulfillment of prophecy

Many passages describe events that could not be foreseen by men except That God gave them the visions- such as Christ would die and rise again, He would ascend into heaven- His bones would not be broken (something that was common in roman Crucifixions) on and on it goes- Here’s just a short list:

https://www.thoughtco.com/prophecies-of-jesus-fulfilled-700159

You may choose to excuse all these away if you like- But I find plenty enough evidence fro m the old testament, and fulfillment by Christ in new testament to KNOW that Christ is Lord and came and suffered and died for our sins and was resurrected to conquer sin- I’ve experienced the freeing effect of Salvation personally and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that my sins were lifted from me at the moment of salvation- Before then my burdens were legion- heavy- depressing- Those who experience Salvation know exactly the moment Christ saves them because that heavy burden is forever lifted from them- Millions and millions of Christians can attest to this very fact-

No- Doubt if you wish- As for me- I’ll believe God’s word and trust in the fulfillment of prophecy, and of eye witness accounts of not just bible writers, but secular writers as well at that time as proof enough that Christ lived, died and rose again-


104 posted on 06/17/2018 8:43:08 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Zionist Conspirator

[[There is nothing in the Hebrew Bible about J*sus or crucifixion.]]

None at all huh?

[[Jewish biblical scholar Alfred Edersheim (1825-1889), a convert to Christianity, wrote a classic work affirming there are 456 passages in the Old Testament that refer to the Messiah. His work The Life and Times of Jesus The Messiah is accessible for free online at CCEL. Edersheim also stated that there are 558 Messianic references in Jewish rabbinic writings. ]]

https://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2012/04/do-old-testament-prophecies-prove-that-jesus-is-the-messiah/

[[ The chance of this happening, they say, is 1 in 1017 power. Stoner gives an illustration that helps visualize the magnitude of such odds:

Suppose that we take 1017 silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas. They will cover all of the state two feet deep. Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly, all over the state. Blindfold a man and tell him that he can travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick up one silver dollar and say that this is the right one. What chance would he have of getting the right one? Just the same chance that the prophets would have had of writing these eight prophecies and having them all come true in any one man, from their day to the present time, providing they wrote using their own wisdom.]]

https://www.thoughtco.com/prophecies-of-jesus-fulfilled-700159

Beleive it or don’t- excuse away all 458 if youl ike- but as i mentioned previously- there is more than enough evidence to make it statistically impossible that Jesus was Not the Son of God- the odds of the man Jesus not being God’s Son as one in 10 to the 17’th power based on fulfillment of biblical prophecy- That makes it impossible that He is Not God’s Son- Beyond that- I have the witness of the Holy Spirit in my life because of Salvation through Christ- This is something that MUST be experienced personally to know that it is true- those that don’t have the witness of the Holy Spirit can sit on the outside and poo poo our testimonies all they like- but until they experience it themselves- they have no knowledge about His power and witness and teachings in our lives-

No evidence? Perhaps to those who refuse to look I guess-


106 posted on 06/17/2018 8:58:40 AM PDT by Bob434
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