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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Well it was spread by someone in power because seminaries were told they could not refuse to take those men as students and Bishops ordained them.”

Not exactly. The seminaries were not told they could not refuse those men. It was rather that sodomites had risen to positions of authority within the seminaries, so they were able to accept those men in the normal course of events.

The sodomite problem did not originate at the top and trickle down. It began with the first KGB infiltrators back in the 1930s. They, and subsequent generations, wormed their way up from the bottom.

“So unless you want to brand a whole bunch of Roman Catholic Princes of the Church as KGB agents”

I doubt that any current bishops are first-generation Russian-by-birth agents, but those agents got more homos in, and they got more, and who knows what generation they are at by now? So no, they aren’t KGB agents; they are the product of the efforts of KGB agents.

“then it was the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.”

Not no way, not no how.

“Certainly no one from the top down said anything against it.”

No one? Really?


119 posted on 08/16/2018 9:57:00 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: dsc
Read again, then compare to today’s Canon. Therein lies the problem. These monsters know the worse thing the church will do is kick them out of the priesthood. Pope St. Pius V: “Having determined to do away with everything that may in some way offend the Divine Majesty, we resolve to punish, above all and without indulgence, those things which, by the authority of the Sacred Scriptures or by most grievous examples, are more repugnant to God than any others and raise His wrath: that is, negligence in divine worship, ruinous simony, the crime of blasphemy, and the execrable libidinous vice against nature [sodomy]. For such faults peoples and nations are scourged by God Who, according to His just condemnation, sends catastrophes, wars, famine, and pestilence ... Let the judges know that if, even after this our Constitution, they are negligent in punishing these crimes, they will not only be guilty of them in the divine judgment but also will incur our indignation ... If someone commits that nefarious crime against nature that caused divine wrath to be unleashed against the children of iniquity, he will be given over to the secular arm for punishment [of death]; and if he is a cleric, he will be subject to the same punishment after having been stripped of all his degrees [of ecclesiastical dignity].” - St. Pius V, Constitution Cum primum, April 1, 1566, in Bullarium Romanum (Rome: Typographia Reverendae Camerae Apostolicae, Mainardi, 1738), vol. 4, chap. 2, p. 284, apud Atila S. Guimaraes, Vatican II, Homosexuality and Pedophilia, TIA, 2004, pp. 19-20 ************************* Compare the watered down 1983 Code: Can. 1395 §1. A cleric who lives in concubinage, other than the case mentioned in ⇒ can. 1394, and a cleric who persists with scandal in another external sin against the sixth commandment of the Decalogue is to be punished by a suspension. If he persists in the delict after a warning, other penalties can gradually be added, including dismissal from the clerical state. §2. A cleric who in another way has committed an offense against the sixth commandment of the Decalogue, if the delict was committed by force or threats or publicly or with a minor below the age of sixteen years, is to be punished with just penalties, not excluding dismissal from the clerical state if the case so warrants.
126 posted on 08/17/2018 5:55:25 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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To: dsc
Yeah, really.

Nobody argued with the policy that a "retreat" could cure a sodomite from his desire to bugger boys either.

So the KGB sent a whole bunch of homosexual Russian agents to join the Roman Catholic Church in the 1930s. So many that they all got into positions of power quickly inside the church, took over the majority of the bishop posts and leadership of the seminaries and deceived all the faithful priests.

So it was not really the Roman Catholic Church who was doing it even though they allowed those KGB agents in and then promoted them and followed them blindly.

O-kay.

130 posted on 08/17/2018 7:32:04 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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