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The Catholic Origins of Halloween
Gloria Romanorum ^ | October 25, 3017 | Florentius

Posted on 10/29/2019 10:33:27 AM PDT by Antoninus

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Timely considering the season.
1 posted on 10/29/2019 10:33:27 AM PDT by Antoninus
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Fine, but not true. Halloween is a pagan celebration of death and demons.


2 posted on 10/29/2019 10:35:10 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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You could not possibly have read the article in 30 seconds. LOL.


3 posted on 10/29/2019 10:36:41 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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I thought Trick or Treat was derived from the practice of selling indulgences.


4 posted on 10/29/2019 10:37:09 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: kaehurowing
Fine, but not true. Halloween is a pagan celebration of death and demons.

The article makes no claims declaring what Haloween is. Your first sentence is logically disconnected to the 2nd.

5 posted on 10/29/2019 10:41:50 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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“lives of the early martyrs”

Like the one that died from choking on a razor blade that someone put in their candy bar.


6 posted on 10/29/2019 10:48:28 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: ebb tide; Salvation; Mrs. Don-o

Catholic Ping!


7 posted on 10/29/2019 10:54:55 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: Antoninus; Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; ...

Ping


8 posted on 10/29/2019 11:10:20 AM PDT by ebb tide (I am Christeros. I am Michael Del Bufalo.)
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Like the one that died from choking on a razor blade that someone put in their candy bar.

Well played!

9 posted on 10/29/2019 11:11:38 AM PDT by defconw (WWG1WGA! MAGA)
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Well played!

Someone will have to explain to me how that comment made any sense at all.
10 posted on 10/29/2019 11:14:00 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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bump for a later read.


11 posted on 10/29/2019 11:17:12 AM PDT by A Cyrenian (Send everyone back to their states and let the states pay for their congress electives.)
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12 posted on 10/29/2019 11:23:18 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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Bookmark


13 posted on 10/29/2019 11:27:51 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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bkmk


14 posted on 10/29/2019 11:32:02 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Well, people may get irritated with me, but I have no problem seeing these as somewhat related holidays. I am not a scholar, but in my limited cultural understanding it seems very incorrect to equate ancient Celtic pagan religions with devil worship. If the old Celtic holiday was more of a harvest festival (which makes sense, I assume every ancient culture has them) which has now become associated with All Saints Day, that’s OK by me.

I have known religious Jewish people who would not let their children participate in Halloween because they felt it was a Christian holiday. And of course, that is entirely up to them what their children do or don’t do, every parent certainly has the right to make that decision. My daughter was in daycare with the Salvation Army, and at one point they were not going to do a halloween thing because the commander (whatever his title was) felt it was pagan. There was a bit of an outcry about that and a compromise was reached that the kids could wear costumes, but no devils, or other supernatural beings. I forget if angels were permitted or not.

I’m a fairly religious person, but I like halloween, I think it is our oldest holiday, it’s important in our WESTERN culture, and I support it’s celebration.

And yes, make it transgressive, it’s one of those holidays. Wear a sombrero, esp. if you’re not Mexican, dress as a ganster, esp. if you’re very law abiding. I have to laugh at the Leftists who’ve spent decades of time and gallons of ink exhorting us all to be edgy, yet who are now triggered if someone gets dressed up for a fall festival.

I don’t want to live in a world ruled by puritans whether of the old or new variety.


15 posted on 10/29/2019 11:52:28 AM PDT by jocon307 (Dem party delenda est!)
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Halloween or “All Hallows Eve’’ is a vigil of prayer and introspection prior to All Saints Day. It also coincides with many pre-Christian observances of the ending of summer and the greenery of the flora and the hibernation of most fauna which to early peoples was harbinger of winter and something later built on as ''scary'' or ''death like''.
16 posted on 10/29/2019 11:57:38 AM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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How is someone supposed to explain to you how humor works?


17 posted on 10/29/2019 11:58:48 AM PDT by Boogieman
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How is someone supposed to explain to you how humor works?

Generally speaking, humor is supposed to be funny.
18 posted on 10/29/2019 12:05:18 PM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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It also coincides with many pre-Christian observances of the ending of summer and the greenery of the flora and the hibernation of most fauna which to early peoples was harbinger of winter and something later built on as ''scary'' or ''death like''.

One of the points made in this article is that there's not much evidence that the "pre-Christian observances" of Halloween-like festivals were actually pre-Christian at all. Anyway, I haven't been able to find any solid historical sources which point to pre-Christian practices--just suppositions based on extremely scanty evidence from the middle ages. Maybe someone else can provide something better.
19 posted on 10/29/2019 12:09:46 PM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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The catholic doctrine of there being a superclass of believers who are elevated to “saints” runs contrary to the entire new testament. All believers are referred to saints in the epistles of Paul, regardless of their level of spiritual maturity. Like many other doctrines of that church, it would never have become dogma if the laity were educated on the teachings of the new testament and had not been kept in the dark for centuries.

I used to pray for saints and ask for them to pray for me when I was a catholic. My grandmother had bundles of tracts of prayers to recite to many different saints. All of this was wrong and utterly unbiblical. The bible teaches us to pray to God the father through Jesus His son, who is the only mediator between God and man. He is the only priest in the new covenant era (since there is no more need to offer sacrifices for sins) and the sacrifice He offered was offered once for all and cannot be repeated. He alone makes intercession for us. No other intermediaries are allowed.

Hebrews 9:11 And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But when Christ[b] had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13 waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. 14 For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.

The book of Hebrews contrasts the old system of repeated sacrifice with the perfect sacrifice of Christ. His sacrifice was offered once (that means the mass is not a valid sacrifice, but rather implies that Jesus sacrifice on the cross was not enough to deal with our sins forever). After this one time perfect sacrifice was offered, Jesus sat down at the right side of God. His work is done. As He said himself “It is finished”. He has perfected for how long? All time! If you have trusted in Christ alone for salvation and admitted your works are of no merit and you need God’s free grace to save you, then God will save you and sanctify you. You can have full and lasting assurance of eternal life.


20 posted on 10/29/2019 12:17:42 PM PDT by winslow
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