Posted on 11/06/2019 4:23:26 PM PST by NRx
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Yes, and There’s a federal fund that pays damages—paid for by our tax dollars—not by the companies.
I don’t even remember all the details, but there’s been plenty of damages awarded—contrary to all the vaccines are totally safe propaganda.
“some ideas are so wrong, that only a very intelligent person could believe them” - George Orwell
It’s a bit anecdotal, but I can say from experience, (as many in here could attest), ahead of each deployment, we are given both targeted and placebo “immunizations”.
Without exception, I can say either at the company or battalion level, no one was noticeably sick before the “immunizations”. Also without exception, easily 35-70% percent of Soldiers and Marines were sick, within 2-4 days of immunizations. We have even seen people hospitalized far outside of traditional flu season. And these are people in very good shape, with very stimulated immune systems.
On one of our deployments, we had 3 plain loads of mostly sick soldiers deploying into our target jurisdiction.
Think about that... What could possibly happen from sending a bunch of sick personnel into a foreign population? In several cases, the people administering the injections, did not know all of what we were being given, but were emphatic that it was all correct. In a couple of other instances, when asked why we were being given shots which included things unknown at all where we were going, they would tell us not to be concerned, because the medical authority knew what was best.
While odd (as I am not a doctor), recently I was part of a conversation between a high level imunologist and three doctors.
All were on the same page, that a number of common virus derivatives were adapting, or “evolving” to be much stronger. In these cases, it was not just happening because of anti-biotics, but because of the strengthened antibodies.
The upshot of the conversation was the acceleration of virus adaptation, as they have in some instances already outpaced both our learning curve, and ability to respond.
The evil vaccine industry and their brown shirt demoncraps
Two words Screw them.
You’re not sticking needles in me my wife or my kids
Vaccinations contain killed or weakened pathogens that in no way are capable of “weakening” the immune system. They wake it up and teach it what to guard against.
A person is susceptible to any pathogen that the immune system hasn’t met before and it doesn’t matter what other prior pathogens the immune system has become acquainted with unless they have some similar or shared antigen that the immune system recognizes, like cowpox and smallpox.
After meeting and defeating a pathogen the immune system retains a memory for next time. Some pathogens mutate so rapidly that they can become unrecognizable and thus defeat the immune memory.
You are all worried about vaccinations “weakening” the immune system when actual measles is immunosuppressive and wipes the immune memory for up to two years. This is why secondary infections are so common in measles victims.
Then can you explain this statement
" immature immunes systems and the ailments are common. If the immune system has not met the pathogen before, it does not respond quickly or in force until after the pathogen has caused symptoms."
Note the common treatment for when these kids get sick after taking the vaccine is a large dose of antibiotics
Want to make a billion dollars? I mean, personally? Simply prove your assertion, make whatever change is required to remove whatever it is that causes (insert any whacked out internet fantasy here), sell the vaccines for $200 a dose.
I'm probably being VERY conservative in how much money you would personally make vs the tens of billions the company you work for would make.
But I'd be a flat earther... Smh. I mean, seriously, there's only been, what, 19 published and peer reviewed studies on vaccines just this year alone. Try not to project your denial of reality on me.
“They must be building snowmen in the hot stinky bad place because I’m siding with the Soviet Socialist State of New York on this one. No one has a right, religious or otherwise, to directly endanger the safety of others.”
Then maybe you also endorse a “vaccination” against gun ownership....If the vaccinations are so good, then those who want and get them should be safe....right?
Tell that to the families who live with the vaccine injured children or the children themselves. You don’t think the drug industry otherwise known as BIG PHARMA has a hand in the information that is put out regarding the situation? You can call it what you will but it doesn’t change the results that people live with.
You patently do not know what you are talking about. No doctor prescribes antibiotics for the common cold because that is a viral illness. Some kids develop secondary bacterial infections, usually of the ear for which they receive antibiotics.
Kids get colds constantly because their immature systems have little to no immune memory because they are young. Immune memory develops from experience, much like cognitive memory. The more antigens the immune system comes in contact with, the bigger it’s antigen memory becomes and the faster and more robust its response will be. Immature = inexperienced. That which does not kill you, literally makes your immune system stronger as it learns when, what and how to fight (immune memory). Unfortunately some virulent pathogens can reproduce faster than the immune system can produce antigen specific white cells.
Vaccines introduce killed or weakened pathogens or nowadays sometimes just antigens specific to the pathogen that introduce the antigen to the immune system without being able to cause the actual disease so that if the person is exposed to the real live pathogen in the future the immune system can rapidly kick it to the curb. A vaccine creates a virtual reality experience of the pathogen for the immune system, so to speak, without actual risk of the actual disease.
Nonsense. Do you suppose a vaccination creates some kind of force-field around the person who receives it that prevents the virus from in any way entering or leaving the body? If you believe that, you are totally ignorant of the immunological science behind vaccinations.
The only person a vaccination protects is the person who receives it.
It's also a known fact that the majority of measles outbreaks are caused by the strain used in the vaccine, which means the vaccinated are the ones shedding the virus.
And the Soviet State of New York has no right to endanger the safety of children whose parents reject mega cocktails of 20+ doses of God-knows-what into their kids. At LEAST not until more research has been done, by actual scientific standards, e.g., blind studies, etc.
I'm sorry, but you are just wrong. In order for the immune system to create a true immunity to a pathogen, the pathogen must reach a threshold of tissue invasion that creates symptoms that cannot be contained. The "killed" or "attenuated" virus does not have the ability to invade the tissues in any substantial way, therefore the body's natural defense does not get triggered.
If these vaccines create "immune memory", then why is it that boosters are required as opposed to natural immunity which is forever?
You are correct that dead and attenuated pathogens elicit less immune response/memory and require multiple exposures to elicit the desired level of immune response and memory.
But natural forever immunity from having a disease is a pyrrhic victory if you are maimed or killed by it.
My neighbor across the alley had her daughter rendered quadriplegic from meningitis that is preventable by vaccination. My own father had a withered arm from polio.
Natural is not better. Nature wants to kill you.
I should have said the parents that had severe complications believed it's was the flu. This is a bacterial infection is what actually takes place. Which by the time they get to the doctor they're very sick and strong antibiotics were required.
said, "Some kids develop secondary bacterial infections, usually of the ear for which they receive antibiotics."
Thank you. Do correlate the vaccines with these infections?
Influenza is also a virus, but a good bit more virulent than the common cold and is capable of causing serious complications all by itself irrespective of vaccination status. Here’s a scary little article on it.
http://www.yalescientific.org/2010/10/influenza-renders-immune-system-vulnerable/
Correlation is not causation, so no, the bacterial infections have nothing to do with vaccination status. Especially if it is a secondary infection to a primary viral infection which is what created the conditions that allowed the bacterial infection to get a toe hold.
Kids are always getting sick from the “new to them” minor pathogens. Kids are also constantly being vaccinated for the major pathogens. It is merely a matter of math that two unrelated things that happen with regularity will eventually coincide.
I will say that it is a fool’s errand to take a healthy child to a dr’s office with a room full of aerosolized germs from sick kids just to get a vaccination. Better to take them to the county health clinic or pharmacy for shots.
At least now I understand your way of thinking.
said, "Correlation is not causation, the bacterial infections have nothing to do with vaccination status. "
What your saying is there is no evidence of what creates these infections. You maybe right but you're creating law based on assumptions not science.
Given there are far more kids that have this pattern of getting infections and then becoming autistic. Since there is a pattern we need more study.
As you said, "Correlation is not causation" it also means it could be causation. Without facts it's an unknown.
Since there are no studies on the pattern of how these kids are getting these infections that lead to autism. A mandate to force the kids to take a scientific unknown is illogical course of action.
Not really.
Vaccines don’t prevent symptoms. They trigger the body to produce antibodies which identify and destroy the specific virus.
Are you even familiar with the genetic research into the heritability of autism?
The fact that the vast majority of children receiving vaccines do not get sick with any infections following the vaccination is confirmation that correlation is not causation.
What your saying is there is no evidence of what creates these infections.
Uh no, I did NOT say that. They know exactly what causes secondary bacterial infections following a cold virus, there are multiple factors, the primary one being the the shape, size and slant (really lack of slant) causing poor drainage in the small child's eustachian tubes resulting in a nice warm pool of fluids for bacteria to incubate in, the inability of small children to effectively blow their nose, the hesitancy of mothers to effectively use that rubber bulb snot sucker to clear their child's nasal passages, etc.
Heritability is a linear. Given there is a dramatic increase in autism genetics can't be the only cause. If it was genetics the statistics proportionality to the population and dominance of the gene.
This video will give you a better idea where I'm coming from:
What Causes Autism? This Explanation Might Be the Best We've Heard!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZKOL3J0ndI
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