Posted on 01/14/2020 6:48:44 AM PST by Cronos
Millions of people wrongly believe Michael the archangel is Jesus Christ! While the Seventh Day Adventists believe Michael is deity, the Jehovah's Witnesses adamantly oppose the deity of Christ, even denying Jesus was ever prayed to or worshiped, but both sadly believe he is Michael! Let's look at their claims to see if this is credible.
Michael the archangel is only referred to on five different occasions throughout the entire Bible. Four times are: Dan 10:21; Dan. 12:1; Jude 1:9 and Rev 12:7. The other time is the following one showing Michael is but just one of the archangels just one of the "chief princes":
"But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia." (Dan. 10:13)
Additionally, the word archangel is only found one time besides Jude 9:
"For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first." (1 Thess. 4:16)
Which archangel is coming down from heaven is unclear since there are more than one. It might not even be Michael. Furthermore, we must logically conclude from 1 Thess. 4:16 that if Jesus' coming with the voice of an archangel makes him an archangel, then Jesus is a trumpet too, because he is also coming with the trumpet call of God.
This is all the Jehovah's Witnesses and Seventh Day Adventists got! Nothing shows Jesus to be Michael the archangel; nonetheless, they have cited those verses to teach their unfounded "Jesus is Michael" dogma to the destruction of souls. Again, Michael is just one of the chief princes, but he, and all other angels, also "worship" Jesus (Heb. 1:6), thereby clearly excluding Jesus from being Michael. As for who Jesus really is, consider the clarity of this:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made." (John 1:1-3)
Before coming to earth Jesus was called "the Word" (Jn. 1:1 cf. 1:14) and shown to be God by nature (deity). Col. 1:16 shows Jesus created everything visible and invisible, including all the "invisible" angels, in heaven and earth thereby even creating Michael the archangel.
After ascending up to heaven the Lord and Savior is still called Jesus (Acts 9:5; Rev. 22:16). Rev. 22:16 further demolishes the twisting of Rev. 1:1 to wrongly portray Jesus as an angel for it was Jesus who sent his angel to John. Besides all of that, Hebrews 1 showcases Jesus' deity and majesty, and it lists 8 ways that Jesus is superior to the angels, which includes Michael.
Jesus repeatedly received worship on earth (Mt. 14:33; 28:9, 17, etc.), yet angels never receive worship (Rev 19:10; 22:8-9). Jesus also receives equal praise and worship with the Father in heaven (Rev. 5:13-14). Besides all that evidence, unlike angels Jesus is prayed "to" (Acts 7:59; Acts 9:14; 1 Cor. 1:2; etc.), but Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to do that also. If Jesus were Michael the archangel, he should not have been prayed to and worshiped, and yet Jesus was both.
None of the details about Michael can be scripturally connected to the Lord Jesus Christ. The Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses' teaching that Jesus is Michael the archangel is clearly wrong and pure religious fantasy; and they do so in violation and neglect of the scriptural evidence. To teach Jesus Christ is Michael the archangel not only downgrades the PRECIOUS Lord Jesus and robs him of his majesty and deity, but it also constitutes serious and lethal error concerning the plan of salvation and going to Jesus directly for eternal life (Jn. 5:40; 4:10; Mt. 11:28).
The early Christians followed and trusted exclusively in Jesus for salvation, and they received eternal life through him via repentance (Mt. 11:28-30; Acts 16:30-31; 7:59; Jn. 3:16; 10:27; Acts 20:21; 1 Pet. 2:6; 1 Jn. 5:12; etc.). In fact, Jesus is Eternal Life (1 Jn. 1:2). Do you know him (1 Jn. 2:3,4)? ● [Save this AD and give to another.]
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It’s the same reason Arians believed it. That way God can be impersonal and not personally interested in you and what you do.
I didn’t connect that - so the Adventists and Jehovah’s witnesses are no more than modern day reigniting of the old Arian false teachings
The creed of Arian Ulfilas, repackaged and spruced up. Yep.
Another Adventist hit piece Cronos? You ran out on the last one. Why does it matter to you what other people believe #1? #2 I don’t know if Michael is Jesus or not and it has nothing to do with my salvation. So this is just another cow patty stirring that you apparently get your kicks out of because of . . . ? Are you really that insecure?
The JW’s have their own version of the Bible which they claim is more accurate than any other versions (although they keep the identity of the translators a secret so as not to elevate anyone) and in their version it reads, “...and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.” There are other changes throughout and is how they support their views as being biblically accurate. Especially with their additional books and magazines where they will reference a line or two of Scripture and then spend several paragraphs explaining what the verse means and how other religions have the wrong understanding. Give them the same verse from king James or other translation and they will tell you the copy you have is a translation error and it is easy to see how you “have misunderstood” - part of their psychology in recruitment when they come across lay people who while they believe in God they target to join their cult by trying to enlighten people.
Paganism=everything but the worship of Jesus Christ,alone.
This is what we get from Sola Scriptura.
I could ask you the same thing in any number of your posts that aren’t about your peculiar set of beliefs. What is it to you?
No, this is what you get when you ignore the scriptures and add the traditions/teachings of men.
Besides which, it is good for Christians to know that the Adventists and Witnesses (both millerite groups) espouse this non-Christian belief
Do I take it that you will refrain from saying anything about any other religious belief as, well you said “why does it matter to you what other people believe?”
No more amazing than your religion believing and teaching Mary is the mother of God and the Queen of heaven...
that’s not a good definition imho - by your definition even Judaism would be paganism.
Do you believe that Jesus is the archangel Michael? Why?
As a Bible teacher I taught all of my students the way you can tell a cult or a false teacher is by doing what Jesus/Yahshua showed us by example. In Matthew 16:15-17 Yahshua said to Peter:
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
When you ask anyone Who is Jesus/Yahshua if they say anyone but the fully divine son of God then they are a false teacher/cult. Ask a Mormon who Jesus/Yahshua is...Ask The Way, who Jesus/Yahshua is. Real easy to spot the deceived.
Hardly.
JWs have serious errors in their translation of the Greek....most notably John 1:1.
See, Richard, errors such as this are proven incorrect with the proper knowledge of the Scriptures....especially when read in context.
When one reads the CCC 963 one sees the error of Rome.
Since the Virgin Mary's role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. "The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer...CCC 963
Pay close attention to the AND in the catechism.
Rome is claiming a lot here....and a lot of error.
Not any more than I believe that Mary is the mother of God...And why would I???
Jud_1:9 Yet Michael the archangel,
Rev_22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Adventists aren’t Arians AFAIK, they just think that “Michael” is sort of an alias for Jesus. JWs are Arians and proud of it.
What about Rome's non-Scriptural beliefs??
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