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To: Cronos; Elsie

Cronos, this long screed is merely an exquisite record of the grammatically, syntactically, and illogical stream of human-invented fiction that contradicts God’s simple Plan of Salvation that calls forth only an unreserved child-like trust in God’s Only-Begotten-In-The Flesh Son. Full Stop.


336 posted on 04/20/2021 5:31:17 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Long screed? Really?

The illogical stream of human-invented fiction is yours, dear imardmd1

you reject Jesus’ very words about the Eucharist.

you believe in the 19th century invention of the pre-tribulation rapture.


347 posted on 04/20/2021 6:55:17 AM PDT by Cronos
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Furthermore imadrdmd1 - you believe in the human-invented fiction that Jesus served grape juice instead of wine.

the forced interpretation is you thinking this was grape Juice.

Jesus drank wine.

Jesus created wine from water (not grape juice).

Unfermented grape juice didn’t exist until 1869 when Thomas Welch invented a method for stopping the fermentation that otherwise begin the moment the grapes are crushed. Grape skins are covered in yeasts that instantly begin converting sugars to alcohol, so any grape juice stored for more than a day or two would have begun to become increasingly alcoholic.

The word used Yayin clearly means an alcoholic drink. Gen 9:21 tells us that Noah drank yayin and passed out drunk and naked.

Ps 104:15 yayin makes the heart of people merry.

Proverbs 20:1 yayin is a mocker, and the wiseman should not be deceived by it.

Why do you, imardmd1 persist in your grammatically, syntactically, and illogical stream of human-invented fiction?


348 posted on 04/20/2021 6:57:01 AM PDT by Cronos
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Imardmd1, your hypotheses about this situation are unneeded, unnecessary, irrational, unspiritual, and ungodlike. From another aspect, they are exactly conformable to a Satanic viewpoint, which your casual flippant narrative displays.

Why do you deny Christ continuously?

Unfermented grape juice didn’t exist until 1869 when Thomas Welch invented a method for stopping the fermentation that otherwise begin the moment the grapes are crushed. Grape skins are covered in yeasts that instantly begin converting sugars to alcohol, so any grape juice stored for more than a day or two would have begun to become increasingly alcoholic.

Wine has its natural 5–6% average alcohol content because that’s about the point at which the alcohol concentration naturally kills the yeasts, stopping the fermentation. If we read the passage in its context, we know that this was a celebration of a wedding, which seems to be something universally celebrated (as God Himself commanded) with wine and merriment. The people at the wedding would have come expecting that, so it seems highly unlikely that they would have complimented the quality of what Jesus made, had it been mere juice

Jesus made wine - alcoholic wine - out of water


349 posted on 04/20/2021 6:57:55 AM PDT by Cronos
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