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A fine, clearly written article. Right up to that last sentence. Is it hopeful? Or is it whistling past the graveyard?


3 posted on 08/13/2021 6:54:59 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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If the Vatican II popes have been so bad, then it seems that we have lost apostolic succession. I know there are people who believe that so long as the Catholic Church goes through the motions of electing new popes that they are popes at least in "name only", but I don't think Jesus meant for there to just be officeholders, especially officeholders who seem to be taking the Church in the wrong direction.

If the essayist is suggesting that we need to oppose the "papalism of the spirit of Vatican I" is he suggesting that the bishops should be more collegial as is the case in the Orthodox Church? Are we now encouraged to migrate to those diocese led by bishops who are faithful to the true magisterium?

The Church is supposed to be a sturdy ship in a storm-tossed sea. A refuge for those who wish to enter the Kingdom. However, lately it appears that it might be safer to get into one of the lifeboats and risk the waves.

8 posted on 08/13/2021 7:38:36 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70
A fine, clearly written article. Right up to that last sentence. Is it hopeful? Or is it whistling past the graveyard?

I posit that it's somewhere in between. Just like most Christians I know are cautiously hopeful, but resolved to not just roll over and play dead re: the leftist NWO agenda. We can fight against the "fundamental transformation" the left has planned for us all... while acknowledging that biblical prophecy shows that they will continue their agenda until Christ returns.

18 posted on 08/13/2021 10:34:10 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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