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To: RangerM
In the '90s our local newspaper comments had some great debates. It was well moderated so trolls and screamers were quickly deleted. Finally one could actually talk with the left. They would often challenge pro-life with "What exactly is it in your CHRISTIAN religion that is against abortion?"

I would explain: Psalm 139:13 says "For You created my innermost parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb," which I understand in the pro-life context as Biblical confirmation of a real baby in the womb. But anyone from any religion or no religion can independently verify that information with 4D ultrasound. You don't need the Christian religion to understand that.

Also, Exodus 20:13 says "You shall not murder." However, most religions and people of no religion believe that murder is wrong independently of the Christian religion.

So 1. It's a baby. 2. Don't kill it" is something Christians believe in but most non-Christians also believe the same thing.
23 posted on 05/07/2022 11:34:07 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: \/\/ayne
"I would explain: Psalm 139:13 says "For You created my innermost parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb," which I understand in the pro-life context as Biblical confirmation of a real baby in the womb. But anyone from any religion or no religion can independently verify that information with 4D ultrasound. You don't need the Christian religion to understand that. Also, Exodus 20:13 says "You shall not murder." However, most religions and people of no religion believe that murder is wrong independently of the Christian religion. "

Indeed if the product of conception is human, then it falls under “Thou shalt not murder.” And so it is:

If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him [manslaughter]; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief [intentional murder] follow, then thou shalt give life for life, (Exodus 21:22-23)

Thou shalt not kill [murder]. (Exodus 20:13)

And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with child [pregnant], and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction. (Genesis 16:11)

And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb [in her sixth month]; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: (Luke 1:41) For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. (Luke 1:44)

And that from a child [same Greek word for “babe” above] thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. (2 Timothy 3:15)

30 posted on 05/07/2022 12:18:02 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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