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To: Morgana

As a Mormon, I chuckle at many generalizations used to characterize Mormon doctrine, which generalizations are almost universally accepted by broader Christianity.

For example: “Mormons categorically deny the idea of salvation by grace alone.” I don’t know that I have ever met a Christian who truly believes that we are saved by grace alone. All Christianity I have encountered demands some act as evidence of faith. For example, baptism or some prayer or act indicating one has accepted Christ and grace. So, it seems like Christianity and Mormons just differ as to what degree of act is required to be saved by grace.

Also, “they believe the scriptures we have are all corrupted and that’s why they have the new revelation of Joseph Smith.” Most Christians I know use multiple versions of the bible in their study. This implicitly indicates that they accept that there is imperfection in the scriptures. Again, it seems like Christians and Mormons only differ by degree.


24 posted on 09/21/2023 1:04:50 PM PDT by bone52 (Now is the time we dreamed of, and you are the hero you hoped for. Carpe diem!)
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To: bone52

“Most Christians I know use multiple versions of the bible in their study. This implicitly indicates that they accept that there is imperfection in the scriptures. Again, it seems like Christians and Mormons only differ by degree.”

Nonsense. We all still agree that no matter what translation you use, the Holy Scriptures are the Holy Scriptures, and not one jot or tittle should be added to them. Even Catholics and Protestants, who may quibble over the apocrypha, agree that they cannot be held up on the same level as either the Old or New Testament, since they were not included in either by the early ecumenical councils. And we certainly all agree that anyone claiming to be a “prophet” bringing another gospel is a heretic and false teacher.

That’s not “differing by degree” by any stretch of the imagination.


28 posted on 09/21/2023 1:15:45 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: bone52

“”” Most Christians I know use multiple versions of the bible in their study. This implicitly indicates that they accept that there is imperfection in the scriptures. Again, it seems like Christians and Mormons only differ by degree.”””

Looking for an easier-to-understand language of a passage you already know to be true is not seeking different versions of truth or thinking the Bible is inaccurate.


29 posted on 09/21/2023 1:24:47 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: bone52

Mormons believe in an infinite god chain reaching into the past and future,
eternal bearing of children,
prescribed works to get to the highest heaven including temple sealings, tithing, and obedience to all the laws and ordinances of the gospel,
Jesus being the brother of Lucifer(which makes us also brothers of Lucifer),
a personal priesthood power which distinguishes Mormon men from the Gentiles,
the blood of Jesus in Gethsemane saves(He didn’t bleed in Gethsemane),
the blood of Jesus does not remove sin,
eternal life is defined as becoming a god,
hell lasts 1000 years,
black people are cursed,
all other religions are an abomination,...


33 posted on 09/21/2023 1:45:28 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: bone52

LDS preach the gospel of the scoundrel Joseph Smith, not the gospel of the Almighty God Jesus Christ.


37 posted on 09/21/2023 3:25:40 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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To: bone52
As a Mormon, I chuckle at many generalizations used to characterize Mormon doctrine, which generalizations are almost universally accepted by broader Christianity.


Reading 1
1 Tm 6:2c-12

Beloved:
Teach and urge these things.
Whoever teaches something different
and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ
and the religious teaching
is conceited, understanding nothing,
and has a morbid disposition for arguments and verbal disputes.
From these come envy, rivalry, insults, evil suspicions,
and mutual friction among people with corrupted minds,
who are deprived of the truth,
supposing religion to be a means of gain.
Indeed, religion with contentment is a great gain.
For we brought nothing into the world,
just as we shall not be able to take anything out of it.
If we have food and clothing, we shall be content with that.
Those who want to be rich are falling into temptation and into a trap
and into many foolish and harmful desires,
which plunge them into ruin and destruction.
For the love of money is the root of all evils,
and some people in their desire for it have strayed from the faith
and have pierced themselves with many pains.

But you, man of God, avoid all this.
Instead, pursue righteousness, devotion,
faith, love, patience, and gentleness.
Compete well for the faith.
Lay hold of eternal life,
to which you were called when you made the noble confession
in the presence of many witnesses.

46 posted on 09/22/2023 3:07:57 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: bone52
“Most Christians I know use multiple versions of the bible in their study. This implicitly indicates that they accept that there is imperfection in the scriptures.”

Different translations don’t = different versions. It is the same Greek text being translated. Different translations can help give a sharper, deeper understanding of the underlying Greek. It is certainly no acknowledgement of any imperfections in the scriptures.

53 posted on 09/25/2023 7:01:41 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: bone52; Morgana
>> Mormons categorically deny the idea of salvation by grace alone <<

The vast majority of Christians categorically deny the idea of salvation by faith alone, including ALL Catholics, ALL Orthodox Christians, and roughly HALF all protestants (who don't agree with their own churches doctrines on the matter)

The idea of 'salvation thru faith alone' is a protestant heresy that was first created in the 1600s.

I haven't heard Mormons admit they disagree with that one, but IF they do, its just an example of a stopped clock being right twice a day.

54 posted on 02/04/2024 6:28:53 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Build Biden Better.)
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