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Nearly 100 Ohio churches leave United Methodist Church amid homosexuality schism
Christian Post ^ | 11/02/23 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 11/02/2023 8:15:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

“It’s hard to have a religion based on a book when you don’t believe the book.”

It’s hard to have church rules if you have to cherry pick which rules to enforce. I know people who are clergy and took part in a same-sex marriage and were not punished. I also know people who were punished. I guess it depends on whether you have a large congregation or a college ministry. College ministries aren’t money makers.

I found it really odd that our pastor will not do weddings when he can just say it is not allowed.


21 posted on 11/02/2023 9:20:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: SeekAndFind
Good to see that some people are still looking for sound doctrine.

Too many fools are following this False Prophet Reprobate into the Lake of Fire, these days

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22 posted on 11/02/2023 9:22:01 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SeekAndFind

Organized religion anything but Godly.

Worship God, pray to Jesus, read His book. No need for organized religion.


23 posted on 11/02/2023 9:27:54 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: SeekAndFind

One UMC near me is in competition with the Church of Christ to see who can get the most queers, based on their signs and fag flag type outdoor displays.


24 posted on 11/02/2023 10:05:25 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: SeekAndFind
"That's not a blame thing; it's just the way it is. It's in the book. We've given a lot of attention to it. Let me be clear. It is not our mission. We gave attention to it. We'll finish up what there is to be finished up."

Dontcha just love wishy-washy, say-nothing "statements" like that?

It would be so much clearer if he just said, "The people who are nauseated by the thought of men sticking their genitals into each other's rectums, and who refuse to allow that to be 'sanctified' as a Holy Sacrament, are leaving us. They claim that it's an 'abomination before the Lord.' Wonder where they came up with that expression?"

Regards,

25 posted on 11/02/2023 10:33:51 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: political1
The Methodist Church has a system set up where it’s its preachers move from one congregation to another every Four or Five years. Continuity in the policy’s policies of the Methodist church is hard to maintain [...]

Very astute observation!

Regards,

26 posted on 11/02/2023 10:36:19 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Marriage between one man and one woman is the foundation of Western Civilization.” - Dennis Prager. - From his seminal article: “Why Judaism (And Then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality.” Worth a read.


27 posted on 11/02/2023 11:02:11 AM PDT by Joe Marine 76 ("Honor is a gift a man gives to himself." - Rob Roy MacGregor)
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To: SeekAndFind

United Methodist Fag Church

If it says “United” (to fags) RUN!


28 posted on 11/02/2023 11:54:07 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: AppyPappy

Not the case with the UMC church I go to in Texas, but sure...


29 posted on 11/02/2023 12:36:49 PM PDT by L,TOWM (An upraised middle finger is my virtue signal.)
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Yes, because the church buildings do not belong to the individual church but to the denomination. Essentially they have to buy their church from the Methodist denomination.

As a result of so many churches leaving and paying the fees the core church has amassed a great deal of money as I understand it. Money which can not be spent lavishly on the old-church's homosexual and pro-homosexual pastors and administration.

What a scam.

30 posted on 11/02/2023 12:39:40 PM PDT by Vlad0
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To: Vlad0; Allegra; Worldtraveler once upon a time; JonPreston; fieldmarshaldj; Atomic Vomit; ...
When some UMC ministers choose to get their Masters in Divinity from "schools" like this one , you get ministers who then shill for the LGBTQWERTY agenda, and I suspect that some of them also shill mightily for Youcrayne, and other leftist/globalist causes. Just a hunch, of course. . . !

"Lancaster Seminary is open and affirming, supporting full inclusion and safety of all LGBTQIA+ individuals and families. We are a proud member of the Open and Affirming Coalition of the United Church of Christ."

31 posted on 11/02/2023 3:23:08 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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Eeewww. Sounds almost heretical.


32 posted on 11/02/2023 4:06:29 PM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: SeekAndFind

I grew up in the church and have a long family history with the denomination. This is splitting my family, well one sister is still working for an “affirming” congregation - they call it Reconciling Ministry. My other sister and me had previously left.

Anyway, I share my thoughts here if you are interested.
https://harrisonshome.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-united-methodist-church-under.html


33 posted on 11/02/2023 5:07:04 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Rocco DiPippo
--- "Just a hunch, of course. . . !"

In response to comment # 31 posted on 11/2/2023, 6:23:08 PM by Rocco DiPippo ---

United Methodists Lose 1800 Churches in Split Over LGBT Stance

Why thousands of U.S. congregations are leaving the United Methodist Church

United Methodists lose one-fifth of U.S. churches in schism over LGBTQ rights

List of South Carolina churches leaving United Methodist Church

Why You Should Be Worried About the Split in the Methodist Church

22 Southern California churches plan to break off from United Methodist amid LGBTQ+ dispute

As Methodist Exits Hit 5800, Some Churches Find Paths Blocked

264 United Methodist churches leave Holston Conference

The split in UNY's United Methodist Church just got wider

Liberal mainline United Methodists see more than 5,000 congregations leave amid arguments over sex, gender

One observes of the "open and affirming" that it specifically attests to a revulsion at Romans 1, meaning that some in the UMC and many in the UCC reject the bible in part. Thus is their theology a matter of "shopping around."

Wiki summarizes nicely, and notes the opposition as well.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_and_affirming

34 posted on 11/02/2023 5:52:56 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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--- Re: comment # 33 posted on 11/2/2023, 8:07:04 PM by Kandy Atz....

Kudos for your article and sharing of your thoughts, which I took time to read. "Under assault" is a fine phrase, as one contemplates from who and whither comes this assault.

35 posted on 11/02/2023 6:01:03 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Thank you. It was not a “fun” article to write.


36 posted on 11/02/2023 9:22:49 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; Allegra; ransomnote; fieldmarshaldj; Right Brother; Atomic Vomit; ..
It would be interesting to hear from someone deeply involved in the UMC on these things. Many times I have asked UMCRevMom@aol.com to weigh in on these matters, since as a self-professed "UMC ordained minister," her views would have some weight. In all the times I've asked her, the response has been nothing but crickets. She's posted thousands of pro-Youcrayne articles but not a single one on this travesty.

Would someone who attends a pro-LGBTQWERT divinity school be against the LGBTQWERT agenda? Has anyone tried to stop UMC-related divinity schools from proclaiming their allegiance to homosexuality and the gay and tranny agendas? I wonder. . .

All the time in the world to shill for Youcrayne. No time to publicly oppose the ruination of her church. Why is that?

Now, let's take a vote: How many think this comment will be removed in 5-4-3-2-1-? Lolololol!

37 posted on 11/03/2023 12:33:07 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Rocco DiPippo

Nothing Christian about Sodomy and Sodomite worshippers. Very Satanic.


38 posted on 11/03/2023 3:17:44 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not a big fan of UMC. When my Aunt passed, she left everything she had including her house to UMC. I asked for family pictures. They were boxed up and sent to a landfill.


39 posted on 11/03/2023 6:18:18 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.for corruptiion)
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To: Rocco DiPippo

I agree. The UMC has been in the news quite a bit lately over the LGBTQLMNOP+# support causing divisions within the church.

As I don’t currently know any Methodists, I too would be interested to hear a Methodist minister’s take on this schism.


40 posted on 11/03/2023 7:53:20 AM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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