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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I was just arguing this very point with a friend. He believes that the new Jews are NOT the same as the Old Testament Jews and are therefore no longer God’s people.

I disagreed 100% and assured him that the today’s State of Israel in God’s eyes is the same one as when He drew up the Old Covenant with Moses, Abraham and Isaac.

God does not renege on His promises, EVER!


8 posted on 11/08/2023 12:18:38 PM PST by JJBookman (Democrats = Party of broken promises )
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To: JJBookman

100%
Satan loves to make God out to be a liar, and anybody who claims The Lord reneges on His promises is clearly in the wrong.

And I might add, if God can renege on His Promises To Israel, well how might that work out for you oh “Christian”?

No way!


20 posted on 11/08/2023 12:28:32 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: JJBookman

I disagreed 100% and assured him that the today’s State of Israel in God’s eyes is the same one as when He drew up the Old Covenant with Moses, Abraham and Isaac.
= = =

As I recall, the OT Jews dissed God quite a few times. God dealt with them. They suffered from it. They remained Jews.


34 posted on 11/08/2023 12:49:18 PM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: JJBookman

The promises that God made to literal Israel were conditional. Specifically, because of their grievous sins, discussed by Jeremiah, among others, God allowed them to be taken captive to Babylon, and of course many of them were outright killed before they even got there. The worst sins were desecration of the Sabbath and worshipping the sun. God gave them EXACTLY 490 years to atone for their sins and accept Christ as the Messiah. They failed. That is what Daniel’s 70 week prophecy was about. It has absolutely nothing to do with chopping 7 years off and placing it just after the false Pre Trib Rapture fantasy.


143 posted on 11/09/2023 4:51:12 AM PST by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: JJBookman
God does not renege on His promises, EVER!

AMEN!

Israel is indeed God's chosen people.

Those of us grafted in in addition by faith are also.

It doesn't mean that God has replaced who His chosen people are as if God could only have one chosen people at a time.

148 posted on 11/09/2023 5:47:32 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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