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To: r9etb
James Burnham had a "law:" Who says A must say B. In this case, A is that miracles are impossible. To say this requires us to say B: that there is no God. The eminently scientific and practical Mr. Gauvin merely assumes this without proof. Not that he could prove it, mind you -- he simply expects us to accept without question the Gauvin version of "nature" and "reality."

Ditto. Well said.

I might add that I had to wonder how Mr. Gauvin, presumably a materialist, could speak of, " contradictions, ...the unreasonable, the miraculous and the monstrous, or, of "a kind and loving man who went about doing good", when materialism provides no coherent basis for either rationality or morality. What could possibly be 'monstrous' about mere physical and chemical reactions?

Cordially,

38 posted on 03/26/2002 9:28:50 AM PST by Diamond
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To: Diamond; oldcats
Any history book will mention the Hittites noted for their use..."1st"---of iron-swords and for almost 2000 years the bible was the only record--mention of their existence until archeologists discovered their location and artifacts proving the Bible was exactly right.

"Were it not for the existence of sin in the world, says Calvin, human beings would believe in God to the same degree and with the same natural spontaneity displayed in our belief in the existence of other persons, or an external world, or the past. This is the natural human condition; it is because of our presently unnatural sinful condition that many of us find belief in God difficult or absurd. The fact is, Calvin thinks, one who does not believe in God is in an epistemically defective position-rather like someone who does not believe that his wife exists, or thinks that she is a... cleverly constructed robot--that has no thoughts, feelings, or consciousness"...

Evolution only mophing animals-matter-science/laws--reality atheist--brain-soul dead zombies are pathetic!

Be right back/more--better!

40 posted on 03/26/2002 10:07:51 AM PST by f.Christian
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