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Thank You!

(Funny how scripture interprets itself only when YOU see fit.)

Again, it is the dispensationalist who calls Christ the liar.

Geneav is only used when referring to the current generation.

gennema is used when referring to a bloodline or nation or race!! That is consistant(sic) in EVERY use of these words!!

1837 posted on 4/7/02 6:09 PM Mountain by nate4one

How do you read :

NIV Matthew 12:39 He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
NIV Hebrews 3:9 where your fathers tested and tried me and for forty years saw what I did.
10 That is why I was angry with that generation, and I said, 'Their hearts are always going astray, and they have not known my ways.'
NIV Acts 13:36 "For when David had served God's purpose in his own generation, he fell asleep; he was buried with his fathers and his body decayed.

How do you read Matthew 24:32 through 24:35.

What is the time of the generation spoken of therein.

The generation in question is when the fig tree puts forth leaves and summer is near.

What is the symbolism of the fig tree ?

Acts 17:11 Now the Bereans were of more noble character
than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with
great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if
what Paul said was true.

Chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>

Mat 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
NIV Matthew 12:39 He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation [geneav] asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet JonahBR>
Did you ignore the preceeding verse? It was His contemporaries who asked for the sign!!
NIV Hebrews 3:9 where your fathers tested and tried me and for forty years saw what I did. 10 That is why I was angry with that generation, and I said, 'Their hearts are always going astray, and they have not known my ways.'

Again the preceeding verse gave you the 40 year clue. He said that is why He was angry with that generation.
NIV Acts 13:36 "For when David had served God's purpose in his own generation, he fell asleep; he was buried with his fathers and his body decayed.
David served his purpose for God in his own (contemporaries) generation/geneav.

Thanks for letting me prove my point. There is NOT ONE place geneav is used as a "race" or "nation". That word is Gennema (or gennehma). NOT GENEAV.

Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see allthese thingsow that it is near, even at the doors.

He is saying the signe are the key for them to know when it is coming.

Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation [geneav] shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

He followed it as He always did as in Matt16:28, Luke 21:32, Matt 23:36, etc.
He followed it, so they would make no mistake, that their generation, geneav, would see it. Him using geneav, not gennehma, is how we can know this to be true!!!

And they did NOT mistake it.

Heb 1:1 In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; Heb 1:2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

The writer differentiated the times, the times of the prophets and hie present time, the last days!

1Jo 2:18 Children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come; therefore we know that it is the last hour

John knew it too!

Mat 12:38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees said to him, "Teacher, we wish to see a sign from you." Mat 12:39 But he answered them, "An evil and adulterous generation [geneav] seeks for a sign; but no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.

The preceding verse clearly shows it was THOSE men asking for the sign, thus Christ calling THAT generation wicked and adulterous (hence, Babylon, harlot of the Revelation).

NIV Hebrews 3:9 where your fathers tested and tried me and for forty years saw what I did. 10 That is why I was angry with that generation [geneav], and I said, 'Their hearts are always going astray, and they have not known my ways.'

The preceding verse said that he was referring to THAT 40 year generation of men. Did you read it?

NIV Acts 13:36 "For when David had served God's purpose in his own generation [geneav], he fell asleep; he was buried with his fathers and his body decayed.

David impacted his own generation the way God had purposed David too.

All instances referring to the contemporary generation of the ones it referred to.

Mat 24:32 "From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near. Mat 24:33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates.

Just like with a fig tree, the signs would give the heads up that it was coming down!

Mat 24:34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all these things take place.

As with Matthew 23:36, Luke 21:32 and Matt 16:28, He followed His passage with a time statement, so they would not mistake the generation that would experience it. That geneav. He would have used gennehma if He meant that race, nation , etc!!!

And they did not mistake it, they declared Christ correct.

Heb 1:1 In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; Heb 1:2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

The reference to the days of the prophets shows that the writer of Hebrews days were the last days. Those days back then were the last days.

1Jo 2:18 Children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come; therefore we know that it is the last hour.

It WAS the last hour then. For John. Not us!!