[Havoc]

Now, let me make this clear: If I ask a Saint to pray for me, I am asking him to unite his prayers to God with mine - just the same as I might ask you. I do not worship or put on par ANYTHING or ANYONE with God.

It sounds so innocent, right up to the point that you either realize it's sin or realize they can't hear you and you're wasting your time, or realize that you aren't just asking for prayer. 'oh st. Etho, heal this wart on my buttocks..' It's funny; but, it's also illustrative. It's sin.

[biblewonk]

The Litany of the Blessed Virgin Mary

Lord, have mercy Chrlst, have mercy Lord, have mercy	Lord, have mercy Christ have mercy Lord, have mercy
God our Father ln Heaven God the Son, Redeemer of the world God the Holy Spirit Holy Trinity, one God	have mercy on us have mercy on us have mercy on us have mercy on us
Holy Mary Holy Mother of God Most honored of virgins Mother of Christ Mother of the Church Mother of divine grace Mother most pure Mother of chaste love Mother and virgin Sinless Mother Dearest of Mothers Model of motherhood Mother of good counsel Mother of our Creator Mother of our Savior	pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us
Virgin most wise Virgin rightly praised Virgin rightly renowned Virgin most powerful Virgin gentle in mercy Faithful Virgin	pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us
Mirror of justice Throne of wisdom Cause of our joy	pray for us pray for us pray for us
Shrine of the Spirit Glory of Israel Vessel of selfless devotion Mystical Rose Tower of David Tower of ivory House of gold Ark of the covenant Gate of heaven Morning star Health of the sick Refuge of sinners Comfort of the troubled Help of Christians	pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us
Queen of angels Queen of patriarchs and prophets Queen of apostles and martyrs Queen of confessors and virgins Queen of all saints Queen conceived without sin Queen assumed in to heaven Queen of the rosary Queen of families Queen of peace	pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us
Blessed be the name of the Virgin Mary	now and forever

Thanks for helping me post this newgeezer. I'm sure many will just love it.

[RobbyS]

Maybe we can find a saint who can work on that wart with his foot!

[Ard Ri]

You know, I actually think you enjoy being obnoxious, Havoc. Did you have a crappy childhood or something that causes you to be that way ? Whatever it was that happened to you, you shouldn`t be so quick to pass judgement on others. (Or did you forget to read that part of Scripture?) One of the main differences between the Catholic Faith and most Protestant Faiths is that we Catholics do not believe that once you die, you stop being a part of the Church. Instead, you are an even more complete part of the Church, and can still serve in its mission.