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To: father_elijah
No, the category of obedience is incorrect. The New Covenant requires love which is willing to follow Jesus through the empowerment of the Holy Spirit.

Like I said, you need to read a concordance and look up all the iterations and see what it says. Acts 5 specifically reserves the baptism of the Holy Spirit for the obedient. Yet Mark 16 requires it. IE obedience is required if you're going to get anywhere with God. Mark 16 is backed up by John 10 and Romans 8 in which it is stated that you are still under condemnation if you aren't following the spirit and that if you don't have the spirit, you're none of his.

Yep, obedience to God is paramount. And Paul advised that though the sacrifice of the cross has set us free from the penalty of the law, it does not give us freedom to sin at will as though we were heathens.

2,171 posted on 04/08/2002 7:52:13 PM PDT by Havoc
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To: Havoc; DouglasKC
Sorry. No sale. The statistical numbers on the appearance of "obey" and "obedience" in a concordance do not alter the extraordinary value of the New Covenant and Jesus teaching of the new commandment of "love" together with the revelation that God is Love. The Holy Spirit who leads the Church into all Truth has made it abundantly clear for the Church that Christ Jesus brought the Good News of God's Love written in His own Blood.

Love is not defined so much by scripture as it is defined by Christ's death on the cross to save you and me.

Christ's blessings be with you.

2,178 posted on 04/08/2002 8:10:15 PM PDT by father_elijah
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