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To: Havoc
Koine is also a dead language, as was Hebrew until recently. You're relying on translations from the Greek that were translated centuries from the original. The closer the translation to the originating era, the closer the translation will be to the orignal. For instance, if I told you 'You look gay' in 2002, anyone overhearing would assume I was implying that you look like a homosexual. If I told you the same thing in 1892, they would assume I meant you look happy. Languages evolve like cultures. A translator, working from the Greek in 300 A.D. would have a more correct 'feel' of the language and its context than a translator today. Koine was descriptive and precise but does not have the sheer number of adjectives as English. That allows an English translator quite a bit of personal license, especially when working from fragmented texts. The precision of Koine makes it difficult to not accept Real Presence. When Jesus says phago (eat) He means, literally, eat. In fact, it was so literal that when He said it in the synagogue, many of His followers had hard time accepting it (going against Levitcal law) and left. I've had others tell me that the passage in John refers to people leaving Jesus because he stated that God would set them apart to Him. That is taking the entire passage out of context. A Hebrew would have no difficulty believing that God would set them apart for Himself, they already had proof of that by their very existence. What was foreign to their minds and disturbing enough to cause them to walk away was that the Lord was telling them they must eat His flesh and drink His blood to have eternal life.
2,223 posted on 04/09/2002 4:14:48 AM PDT by constitutiongirl
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To: constitutiongirl
When Jesus says phago (eat) He means, literally, eat.

Are you suggesting that Jesus taught in Koine Greek? That seems unlikely to me, given that the everyday language of Judea at the time was Aramaic.

2,231 posted on 04/09/2002 5:51:02 AM PDT by malakhi
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