[Ard Ri]

All I know, Havoc, is that you seem to go out of your way to denigrate the teachings of a Faith that others hold dear, while I`m certain you wouldn`t stand for such conduct if it was pointed in your direction. You`d be fast out of the gate to condemn a Catholic who would DARE to denigrate your Faith in such a manner, I`m sure. And, your reply to Colleen about praying to some St. Ethos was childish and didn`t do much to advance your position. What we Catholics believe in is Intercessory Prayer. Not alot different from my asking for a friend or loved one to intercede on my behalf. I`m off to work now, but will attempt to further explain intercessory prayer later.

[Havoc]

All I know, Havoc, is that you seem to go out of your way to denigrate the teachings of a Faith that others hold dear, while I`m certain you wouldn`t stand for such conduct if it was pointed in your direction. You`d be fast out of the gate to condemn a Catholic who would DARE to denigrate your Faith in such a manner, I`m sure.

Who are you kidding? Scripture, bud, is the benchmark. If you can't at least stick to it..

And, your reply to Colleen about praying to some St. Ethos was childish and didn`t do much to advance your position. What we Catholics believe in is Intercessory Prayer. Not alot different from my asking for a friend or loved one to intercede on my behalf. I`m off to work now, but will attempt to further explain intercessory prayer later.

I know what intercessory prayer is. I also know what talking to the dead is - and that it is a sin. I also know that thou shalt not make an imaga nor bow to it was written by Gods finger into stone. One of the things that God himself wrote and you've no fear or respect for it. Instead you tempt God as a religion by doing exactly what you're forbidden to do and calling it righteous by way of philosophy. Now, you tell me who's denigrating what. I'm offended at your great offence to god. I can care less if you're bothered by my pointing it out.