[Fury]

Havoc is a menace and all of you who enable him are as bad.

No! Some posters cannot respond to facts, logic, reasoning and faith. Once you identify those posters, you can be better prepared. Look at the wonderful discussion on saints. There is Scriptural references for saints (and being living), along with angels and saints and what our responsibilities are.

Facts, logic, reasoning and faith are the best methods to advance the Catholic Church beliefs. You know you have been successful when the arguments turn personal or your requests for clarification go unanswered. Hang in there!

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

You know you have been successful when the arguments turn personal or your requests for clarification go unanswered.

I'm sorry but have you noticed Havoc doesn't respond to your posts? When some one doesn't want to talk with me, I can take a hint and quit chasing them around, because in the end you just wind up looking like a dog chasing its tail.

BigMack

[Invincibly Ignorant]

No! Some posters cannot respond to facts, logic, reasoning and faith. Once you identify those posters, you can be better prepared. Look at the wonderful discussion on saints. There is Scriptural references for saints (and being living), along with angels and saints and what our responsibilities are.

And yet all of the scripture you've posted regarding saints doesn't prove your theology regarding them. Furthermore, it doesn't really even hint at your theology. Facts, logic, reasoning and faith oughta be presented by your side as well.