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To: goldenstategirl
Bearing false witness is a sin. You appear to be calling me a liar for telling you the truth about my life! I urge you in the strongest terms, not to sin in this way.

My church does 5 to 8 baptisms a week, where the person is immersed in a tank. Before they are baptised, they give their testimony about how they came to be saved and to know Jesus Christ as their Savior. The most common tesitmony by far, is that of people who were raised Roman Catholic, then after a living life without knowing God in a real, personal way, began to read the Bible and came to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. My conversion is an extremely common one.

28 posted on 05/05/2002 11:45:23 AM PDT by berned
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To: berned
You'll pay a price someday for your deceit.
29 posted on 05/05/2002 11:48:52 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: berned
"The most common tesitmony by far, is that of people who were raised Roman Catholic, then after a living life without knowing God in a real, personal way, began to read the Bible and came to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. My conversion is an extremely common one."

Okay lemme see. Here are these people, raised Catholic then drifted away. Now why did they drift away? I think a lot of times (not ALWAYS but I bet in many cases) it's because of becoming a teenager and all the experiementation and rebellion that goes with it. Then on to college and young adulthood and giving in to the temptations of illicit sex, divorce and other sins that result in a even greater breech with God and the Church and even more neglect of one's spiritual life. Happens quite a bit to people in their 20's and 30's.

Then one day these people are older and wiser and decide they need to settle down and tend to their souls. A good thing! Along comes an Evangelical and off they go with him to an Evangelical Church just to see what it is like. Well it's great because Hey you don't have to go to Confession and confess 20 years worth of sins and the fact that they you are on your third marriage. (Things the Catholic Church certainly did not make them do!)

And so they find God. (Again a good thing.) But they start to look back for reasons why they lost him. Not wanting to blame themselves for their drifting away from Jesus in the first place, they decide they never knew him at all and this was not THEIR fault, it was the fault of the Catholic Church.

My speculation, and it is just that, is that hardly anyone leaves the Catholic Church while in the state of grace, that is, while living a virtuous and godly life as fully participating, practicing Catholic. They drift out because of sin and forget that is why they left, then blame the Church for not bringing them close to God. But the fact is they closed THEMSELVES to God or they would not have left because God and Jesus are right there in the Catholic Church!

32 posted on 05/05/2002 10:29:07 PM PDT by Theresa
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To: berned
"The most common tesitmony by far, is that of people who were raised Roman Catholic, then after a living life without knowing God in a real, personal way, began to read the Bible and came to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior."

A Catholic can partake of the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ, in the Eucharist, every single day. (There are daily masses.) If that is not a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, I don't know what is.

34 posted on 05/05/2002 10:41:37 PM PDT by Theresa
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