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To: saradippity
Thanks for pinging me. This article practically says it all. If the bishops would remember that their primary duty is to "save souls" and work to accomplish that end they would find the direction they lost when they forgot why they were here.

Agreed. I have about had it with the Amchurch Hirarchy. The past nearly forty years has seen an enormous rise in "secondary christianity" (I think that was coined by theologian Romano Amero)which is a christianity barely distinguishable from The Salvation Army.

When was the last time we heard a sermon about SIN and its malign consequences? At Mass all we hear anymore is how God loves us just as we are, how we are wonderful, generous people and how the "Feeding-the-poor-drunks-passed-out-in-the-park-when-they-are-not-begging-for-money-on-the-streets-and-peeing-in-the-alleys-Ministry" will be having a bake sale right after Mass.

Eschatology? Sure, give a ham sandwich to a drunk. THAT is the "narrow path" to salvation. I'll bet a million dollars there isn't a person on this thread who can honestly say they have heard a sermon about the NECESSITY of one having Sanctifying Grace in their soul at the time of death.

I am beyond tired of this "spirituality." We are a deracinated people. For two generations our Faith has been stolen. Our Bishops have abandoned us. The Pope does not have faith we can stand to hear the truth about our mortal peril.

The wolves are in the Sanctuary and we are counseled to have "patience." IT is FAR WORSE than most are willing to admit. Corporately speaking, we are DEAD...

Now, it IS true that tiny pockets of Christianity remain, but those pockets of Faith are few and far between and the Hierarchy tolerates but does not promote those places (I am thinking of FSSP and Bishop Bruskewtiz etc).

The situation is drastic. We are Laodicea (3rd chapter Apocalypse) and the candlestick has been removed from the Hierarchy. ALL has been corrupted from Biblical Scholarship, to the Universities, to Catechetics, to the Seminaries, to the Liturgy, to our Chanceries and ALL we get is equivocation, tepidity, rationalising, temporising and buck-passing from our timorous NCCB.

Rome even had the AUDACITY to propose the Bishops set aside a day or prayer and penance for EVERYBODY. Speaking just for myself NO WAY, JOSE.

When I came to YOU Bishop, asking YOU to condemn Blasphemy in YOUR Dioscean paper, you called me crazy (after you said you agreed with the blasphemy). When we BEGGED you to STOP that pornography masquerading as "sex ed" in your Catholic Schools you told us you thought it appropriate and that while you understood it ws a burden to take our kids OUT OF STATE to get a decent Catholic education, you would not make changes. When we BEGGED you to STOP your priests from Liturgical anomie, you told us you thought we had a healthy and vibrant community of believers and you promised us another meeting. You never gave us that meeting.

. So NO. I won't do penance for YOU destroying MY Catholic Church. YOU do the Penance PUBLICLY.

When I go to Confession, I don't ask you to do MY Penance. Don't ask me to join you in doing Penance for YOUR SINS. Grow the hell up or LEAVE

11 posted on 05/05/2002 1:24:30 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
Now, it IS true that tiny pockets of Christianity remain, but those pockets of Faith are few and far between and the Hierarchy tolerates but does not promote those places (I am thinking of FSSP and Bishop Bruskewtiz etc).

I'm surprised you even post here, seeing as how those of us who love the Church today and are not longing for the "glory days" of the Tridentine Liturgy are such rabble in your eyes.

Somehow, I get the impression that, during a sermon on sin, you would be patting yourself on the back and thanking God that you are not like the rest of men.

17 posted on 05/05/2002 2:11:11 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Catholicguy
I'll bet a million dollars there isn't a person on this thread who can honestly say they have heard a sermon about the NECESSITY of one having Sanctifying Grace in their soul at the time of death.

I'll take that bet. Wire transfer will be fine. ;)

I should mention that my parish is unusual in that there are literally zero abuses or disobedience. The preaching is above average, and the CCD and RCIA programs are superb. About 25 people are received into the Church each Easter.

Makes for a loooong Vigil Mass, though.

29 posted on 05/06/2002 7:50:11 AM PDT by Steve0113
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To: Catholicguy
Forgot to mention: I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but the church is packed, standing-room-only, every Sunday.
30 posted on 05/06/2002 7:55:39 AM PDT by Steve0113
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