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To: Zipporah
I agree that Mary should be honored as the mother of JESUS..but I do have a problem with calling Mary the 'mother of God' ..

Christ is Risen!

Then you are a Nestorian. That heresy was condemned at the 3rd Ecumenical Council.

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Held in Ephesus, Asia Minor in 431 under Emperor Theodosius II (grandson of Theodosius the Great). 200 Bishops were present.

The Nestorian Controversy

It concerned the nature of Jesus Christ, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity. Nestorius taught that the Virgin Mary gave birth to a man, Jesus Christ, not God, the "Logos" ("The Word", Son of God). The Logos only dwelled in Christ, as in a Temple (Christ, therefore, was only Theophoros: The "Bearer of God". Consequently, Virgin Mary should be called "Christotokos," Mother of Christ and not "Theotokos, "Mother of God." Hence, the name, "Christological controversies".

Nestorianism over emphasized the human nature of Christ at the expense of the divine. The Council denounced Nestorius' teaching as erroneous. Our Lord Jesus Christ is one person, not two separate "people": the Man, Jesus Christ and the Son of God, Logos. The Council decreed that Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God (Logos), is complete God and complete man, with a rational soul and body. The Virgin Mary is "Theotokos" because she gave birth not to man but to God who became man. The union of the two natures of Christ took place in such a fashion that one did not disturb the other.

Don-o says: If you relegate Mary to being a "chosen vessel" used by God to get a body, you are Nestorian. The fact that He rose up from the dead in a body that Thomas could handle; the fact that He ate, and at the same time walked through walls; the fact that his glorified human body ascended; all these facts support the historical understanding of the Incarnation.

It is indeed foolishness to the Greeks and a stumbling block to the Jews, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God.

40 posted on 05/06/2002 1:02:10 PM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o
Good post. God bless.
42 posted on 05/06/2002 2:02:52 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: don-o
I didn't say.. Jesus was two people.. but Mary is not the mother of God.. God the Father the Son and the Spirit existed previous to the birth of Jesus.
52 posted on 05/06/2002 4:43:02 PM PDT by Zipporah
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To: don-o
Indeed He has Risen !

I agree with all of your post, I take it you are Orthodox too ?

296 posted on 07/06/2002 9:10:54 PM PDT by DreamWeaver
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