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Announcing the Catholic Freeper Locator List
June 14, 2002 | Romulus

Posted on 06/14/2002 8:24:23 AM PDT by Romulus

Yesterday's thread on the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Summer Plenary Session. turned up a lot of Catholic FReepers suggesting that it's time for the faithful laity to get more visible and active in pressing for a restoration of right order in the Church. To that end, I've decided to develop and maintain a list of Catholic FReepers, sorted by state, as a resource for future activism. Some of us will wish to collaborate on future projects; others may simply find the list handy for purposes of fellowship. If you want to be on this list, please post your state (or overseas country) on this thread. I'll collate whatever comes in, and Askel5 will post the results on the ConSpiratio web site.

In posting your FR handle and location, you're not volunteering for anything except the chance of being contacted in the future. Whatever activism you then undertake is entirely up to you. For the record, I have no specific plan for this list, nor am I aware of anyone else's. It seems like something that needs to be done, however, and I'll wager the very existence of a good list will generate fruitful ideas.

If you prefer not to post your location, please bump the thread anyway. Thanks!


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To: B Knotts
Incidentally, I live in the Archdiocese of Portland, but attend Mass across the river in the Archdiocese of Seattle, as we have no other Churches in the western Gorge.
41 posted on 06/14/2002 10:06:15 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Gophack; NYer
I used to live in a small town and belong to the parish there. It is a beautiful, small white church that just warmed your heart when you entered. There was a beautiful, large crucifix hanging over the altar and the pews all had kneelers, it was a traditional lovely small church.

A few years ago, I went back in for a visit and found the crucifix placed in the back of the church over to the side (barely visible unless you looked for it) and it had been replaced by a plain cross over the altar (which doesn't house the Tabernacle anymore) - the front pews - about the first 10 rows - had been ripped out and replaced with chairs that have no kneelers. My heart was broken.

42 posted on 06/14/2002 10:07:43 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: Gophack
All Catholic Churches everywhere in the world have a crucifix.

The formerly beautiful little Church I grew up at in Queens NY replaced the Crucifix with a bizarre Risen Christ thing along with a real totem-pole tabernacle .

No Crucifixes there anymore.

43 posted on 06/14/2002 10:09:21 AM PDT by katnip
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To: nina0113
That's really sad. The crucifix is one thing, but the tabernacle ... I have heard of the tabernacle being moved out of the church proper, but I always felt that was just wrong. Jesus Christ is the focus of our worship, and He should have a prominent place in the church. If my church moved the tabernacle ... which is on the altar, to the right of center ... I would complain and change parishes if they didn't move it back.

Fortunately, I think that my priests are OK and would never do such a thing.

44 posted on 06/14/2002 10:09:50 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: nina0113; all
From EWTN:

Crucifix at Mass
Question from Anita Pollock on 05-28-2002:
Does a pastor have the authority to eliminate the crucifix in worship space substituting a stylized cross (without corpus) during Mass?

Answer by Colin B. Donovan, STL on 06-07-2002:
No, because during Mass, at least, the General Instruction calls for a cross with a corpus on it. 117 ... There is also to be a cross on or near the altar, with a figure of Christ crucified.


45 posted on 06/14/2002 10:11:27 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Romulus
Portland Archdiocese -- Oregon

Archbishop Vlazny

46 posted on 06/14/2002 10:13:34 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: Catholic_list; father elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady in Blue...
Some duplicates of those you already have pinged.
47 posted on 06/14/2002 10:14:59 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: Romulus
It seems like something that needs to be done

Pray for the Bishops

48 posted on 06/14/2002 10:17:27 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: Romulus
Minnesota.
49 posted on 06/14/2002 10:19:14 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad
OOOOPS. Diocese of Duluth.
50 posted on 06/14/2002 10:20:04 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: katnip
No Crucifixes there anymore.

Bizarre. It is because Christ died for our sins that we are even here as believers.

51 posted on 06/14/2002 10:23:33 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: Romulus
Catholic by choice, Texan by the grace of God. ;o)
(Truthfully, both by the grace of God)

Allen, Texas ... Diocese of Dallas.

52 posted on 06/14/2002 10:23:52 AM PDT by al_c
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To: Romulus
AZ- Phoenix diocese
53 posted on 06/14/2002 10:25:55 AM PDT by kstewskis
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To: Gophack
If my church moved the tabernacle ... which is on the altar, to the right of center ...

OK, I have a problem with this. My church is a modernish one (1958) that has the main altar and two small sides ... to the left and right of the main altar. The right side contains a statue of the BVM holding baby Jesus and Joseph alongside with his tools (and in front of this is where the large choir sings, but that is another story), and the other one used to have a statue that was removed and the Tabernacle was placed there on a small altar. Now, the main altar has grooves for the Tabernacle and both are made of the same marble... why move it? To me, it should be front and center... am I being too picky?

And you know... I miss votive candles.

54 posted on 06/14/2002 10:27:04 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen
I am really beginning to think that it is up to the lay faithful to keep traditional alive and well in the Church. I know it sounds trite to say we only have ourselves to blame, but it's true in some ways. I blame myself because for nearly 20 years I rarely went to mass (I was a Christmas/Easter Catholic). That's 20 years where my prayers could have been joined with others to strengthen the church.

Now that we are seeing these problems, we can do something about it. The first is to know the rules, the second is to learn diplomacy, and the third is to never give up.

55 posted on 06/14/2002 10:27:56 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: american colleen
My church was remodelled because of growth about 10 years ago, before I started attending. The altar is in the center of the church, and the tabernacle is not directly behind it, but to the right, and directly to the right of the crucifix. It is prominently displayed, I feel, even more a focal point than some of the older, traditional churches. It the tabernacle were directly behind the altar, it would be blocked by the priest and block the crucifix.

Hard to explain ... but I think the placement in my church is perfect.

56 posted on 06/14/2002 10:31:19 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Romulus
Pennsylvania
57 posted on 06/14/2002 10:37:03 AM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: Romulus
Camden, NJ
58 posted on 06/14/2002 10:40:55 AM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Romulus
Florida
59 posted on 06/14/2002 10:44:00 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Romulus
Minnesota. Our bishop is Archbishop Harry Flynn... :o(
60 posted on 06/14/2002 10:47:01 AM PDT by redhead
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