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Bishops betraying the Catholic Church
WorldNetDaily ^ | June 14, 2002 | Mary Jo Anderson

Posted on 06/14/2002 11:03:34 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 06/14/2002 11:03:34 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Siobhan; Goldenstategirl; Maryz; Americancolleen; Salvation; ninenot; sockmonkey; Polycarp
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2 posted on 06/14/2002 11:08:53 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway; Antoninus; sandyeggo; frogandtoad; saradippity; maryz; Jeff Chandler; ken5050...
This is an article I will e-mail to my address book.

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3 posted on 06/14/2002 11:57:41 AM PDT by Siobhan
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It did not seem worthy of print. Until, that is, Pope John Paul II, the disliked "reactionary" pope faltered during Christmas masses and seemed so frail that new teams of correspondents were dispatched to Rome in anticipation of a papal conclave.

And the Geoghan scandal broke, I think, in January. I wonder, though, if indeed "[i]t did not seem worthy of print." Maybe the Globe was saving it up deliberately for a time auspicious to its purposes.

This article is invaluable.

4 posted on 06/14/2002 12:19:23 PM PDT by maryz
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Whoa! I'm bookmarking this one.
5 posted on 06/14/2002 12:24:46 PM PDT by american colleen
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bump for later.
6 posted on 06/14/2002 12:43:21 PM PDT by Steve0113
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"The Homosexual Captivity of the Church"

Who benefits?

7 posted on 06/14/2002 12:56:36 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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I see the excellencys and eminences just voted down Bishop Bruskewitz's ammendment to study the problems of homosexuality, and dissent to see if they have contributed to this problem...

Damn, they don't want the REAL problems that created this out of the box, do they?

8 posted on 06/14/2002 1:11:08 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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I almost cried. Was there one voice for the amendment? My heart is heavy.
9 posted on 06/14/2002 1:14:10 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: nickcarraway
This is an incredible article. Thanks for the post.

It is an eye-opener. I never realized exactly what is at stake ... but the Keys of St. Peter. Wow.

We need to pray and be diligent.

10 posted on 06/14/2002 1:14:17 PM PDT by Gophack
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Bookmark Bump!
11 posted on 06/14/2002 1:19:03 PM PDT by ThomasMore
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I wasn't watching, but that is very disappointing that they won't even study it. Of course, I didn't even think the suggestion would be made in public.
12 posted on 06/14/2002 1:19:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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The modernists were in lock step with American culture. Worse, they adopted Marxist strategies to achieve their goals. Msgr. Jack Egan, Chicago icon of liberalism in the '60s and '70s, befriended Marxist Saul Alinsky, author of "Rules for Radicals," a manifesto for tearing down a community or institution and rebuilding it in the communist image.

I knew the modernists have been trying to destroy the Church from within, but I didn't know one of the flakes actually sought out Alinsky. Great find, thanks!

13 posted on 06/14/2002 1:33:41 PM PDT by ELS
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Great offering and very frightening, nick!

Time to engage the heavy hitters of intercession ... among them the Archangels and Our Blessed Mother in a big way.

Rosaries for priests who are not entrapped or entrenched and prayers for a laity that does not abandon the true Church!
14 posted on 06/14/2002 1:40:16 PM PDT by AKA Elena
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In Texas, we would say the Bishops have no huevos..also, I might add I wonder if some of them even have souls.
15 posted on 06/14/2002 1:42:24 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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"I knew the modernists have been trying to destroy the Church from within, but I didn't know one of the flakes actually sought out Alinsky. Great find, thanks!"

Alinsky befriended Egan!?! Oy vey. I have to ask...is this Mgsr. Jack Egan the Present NY Cardinal?(Just waiting for the other Gramsci shoe to drop.)

So as we scroll forward to the future...in what decade will they start to dump the Sacraments?
16 posted on 06/14/2002 1:55:43 PM PDT by Domestic Church
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Fr Gould on EWTN said yesterday that they "are afraid" with regard to speaking out against homosexuality. Makes you wonder whether they have been receiving death threats or fear these "act up" descecrations the homos and lesbians stage occasionally.
17 posted on 06/14/2002 1:57:33 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Others were weak and allowed the National Conference of Catholic Bishops to push them into acquiescence. Soon, the internal committees of the NCCB were composed of homosexuals and modernists, feminists and even New Age devotees. They have a death grip on the levers of power within the Conference. An example is the pastoral letter from the U.S. bishops on homosexuality, Always Our Children. This flawed "gay positive" document was drafted by a committee – not by the bishops – and issued before the majority of U.S. bishops had even read the document. They did not vote on its contents (so much for "consensus"). The Vatican finally forced a revision of this squishy "pastoral" instruction. Even now, in Dallas, a similar committee set the agenda for the deliberations.
An important point. Always Our Children is a seminal document that is cited time and again by "gay friendly" Catholics in support of "tolerance" towards practicing homosexuals and acceptance of "gay ministries" that minister to them. Examples include:

1. Dignity:

Robert Mialovich, then President of Dignity/USA stated:
Our hope is that all bishops, pastors and parents will take it to heart and that we will see improved ministry to our community. Since its founding in 1969, Dignity/USA has been working for improved pastoral attention to the real lives of gay men and women. The bishops' letter recognizes some of these needs and our task will be to hold them to their words.
2. National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries
Using Always Our Children

Rev. Raymond C. Kellerman, a priest of the Archdiocese of Cincinnati, will explore this pastoral letter, offering information about church documents and how they come to be written, and provide a study/discussion guide. In addition to his work with gay and lesbian people, Fr. Kellerman is a pastor, is involved with outreach to the Hispanic Community, and is a member of Isaiah Ministries, a team of preachers.

3. New Ways Ministries:
Writings

National Conference of Catholic Bishops October, 1997, statement on gays and lesbians entitled "Always Our Children: A Pastoral Message to Parents of Homosexual Children and Suggestions for Pastoral Ministers."

4. Gay and Lesbian Family Ministry (Cleveland):
The U.S. Catholic Bishops have outstretched a hand of support to parents of gay and lesbian persons through their pastoral message of "Always Our Children". The diocese has responded to this message by providing a number of parent support groups with the help of several parish communities in the diocese. If you are a parent, sibling or friend of a gay or lesbian person struggling to understand, accept and learn more about the reality of your family member one of the support groups listed below will be helpful.
I have written to Mary Jo Anderson to get further details about the changes made as per the Vatican's instructions, and will post them if I receive an answer.
18 posted on 06/14/2002 2:01:02 PM PDT by eastsider
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..they "are afraid" with regard to speaking out against homosexuality...

I figured that they are afraid because some of these homos have the goods on them, and have threatened to out them.

I just discovered for any TEXAS Catholics out there, that TXCN has been covering the conference live, too. Wish I'd known that earlier.

19 posted on 06/14/2002 2:02:18 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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Great. Please update us.
20 posted on 06/14/2002 2:14:15 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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