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To: RnMomof7
"Verse 12. He bare the sin of many] Mybr rabbim, the multitudes, the many that were made sinners by the offences of one; i.e., the whole human race; for all have sinned-all have fallen; and for all that have sinned, and for all that have fallen, Jesus Christ died. The Mybr rabbim of the prophet answers to the oi polloi, of the apostle, #Ro 5:15, 19. As the polloi of the apostle means all that have sinned; so the Mybr rabbim of the prophet means those for whom Christ died; i.e., all that have sinned." (Good ol' Dr. Adam Clarke.)
195 posted on 07/25/2002 2:15:31 AM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: The Grammarian
As the polloi of the apostle means all that have sinned; so the Mybr rabbim of the prophet means those for whom Christ died; i.e., all that have sinned." (Good ol' Dr. Adam Clarke.)

So I assume that means then that you believe in a universal salvation? No men are lost all are saved. We do not need missionaries and xzins can close his church.

Let me ask you the question that xzins will not answer.

If Christ died for all men or all sinners. Then His blood paid the price for all their sin ("It is finished") .

Does a just God demand double payment?

206 posted on 07/25/2002 6:44:07 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: The Grammarian
On Isiah 53



By his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; Christ is the servant of the Lord; See Gill on "Isa 53:1," See Gill on "Isa 49:3," See Gill on "Isa 52:13." He is said to be "righteous," because of the holiness of his nature, and the righteousness of his life as a man; and because of his faithful discharge of his work and office as Mediator; and because he is the author and bringer in of an everlasting righteousness, by which he justifies his people; that is, acquits and absolves them, pronounces them righteous, and frees them from condemnation and death;

he is the procuring and meritorious cause of their justification; his righteousness is the matter of it; in him, as their Head, are they justified, and by him the sentence is pronounced: for this is to be understood not of making men holy and righteous inherently, that is sanctification; nor of a teaching men doctrinally the way and method of justifying men, which is no other than ministers do; but it is a forensic act, a pronouncing and declaring men righteous, as opposed to condemnation: and they are many who are so justified; the many who were ordained to eternal life; the many whose sins Christ bore, and gave his life a ransom for; the many sons that are brought by him to glory.

This shows that they are not a few, which serves to magnify the grace of God, exalt the satisfaction and righteousness of Christ, and encourage distressed sinners to look to him for justification of life; and yet they are not all men, for all men have not faith, nor are they saved; though all Christ's spiritual seed and offspring shall be justified, and shall glory: and this is "by" or "through his knowledge"; the knowledge of him, of Christ, which is no other than faith in him, by which a man sees and knows him, and believes in him, as the Lord his righteousness; and this agrees with the New Testament doctrine of justification by faith; which is no other than the manifestation, knowledge, sense, and perception of it by faith.


For he shall bear their iniquities; this is the reason of Christ's justifying many, the ground and foundation of it; he undertook to satisfy for their sins; these, as before observed, were laid on him; being laid on him, he bore them, the whole of them, and all the punishment due to them; whereby he made satisfaction for them, and bore them away, so as they are to be seen no more; and upon this justification proceeds.

(Good Ole Gill)
272 posted on 07/25/2002 5:59:09 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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