The Dangers of Reformed Theology

Middletown Bible Church website ^ | Unknown | George Zeller

[fortheDeclaration]

Bump for read. I think I will get grief from both sides on this one! :>)

[sola gracia]

We could even say it in a simpler way: "Christ’s death was SUFFICIENT FOR ALL but EFFICIENT only for those who believe." The cross–work of Christ is not limited, but the application of that cross–work through the work of the Holy Spirit is limited to believers only.

Ah ha!!! So you do limit the atonement! Now if you will go one step further and finally admit that those who believe only do so because of God's Grace that enables them to believe because He chose them to believe - we will be on common ground. Well, that's settled, Next!!

[RnMomof7]

I think it is too long to bother with..sorry

[RnMomof7]

We had a discussion on this a few weeks ago and xzins liked the Bottner defination ..sufficent for all effective for the elect (saved)

But once taken to its natural conclusion that was the end of the aggreement:>)

[maestro]

Wow!!!!....................."Joy".................."Romans 10:17........................"Joy"

[maestro]

The Dangers of Reformed Theology

I think I will get grief from both sides on this one! :>)

This article is an EXCELLENT READ!

Thanks!

(bookmarked and printed out!)

Maranatha!
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[Catholicguy]

At the Council of Nicea, called by the Roman Emperor Constantine, his bishops began the first "system" of Judao–Christian coded laws, to be expanded through the dark ages by Popes and their hierarchy of bishops;

Whew...I had to read this deep into the article to discover an attack on the Catholic Church that Jesus established Matt16:18.

Do you ever run across Theological pieces in your Communion that don't attack The Pillar of Truth or is that the sine qua non of protestant theology?

[Wrigley]

Where is the attack? I don't see it.

[ksen]

Good read, I expect you will get mostly silence as people hope this article goes away.

[Catholicguy]

He makes it sound as though the Catholic Church ususrped authority at Nicea. He is wrong and unBiblical in his criticism

Matt 16:18,19 "And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdo, of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoeer thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

The power of binding is exercised by :

1. refusing to absolve 2. enjoining penance for sins forgiven

3. excommunication, suspension, interdict

4. making rules and laws for the government of the Church

5. determining what is of faith by the judgements and definitions of the Church.

The author errs by ignoring the words of Jesus in the New Testament.

[Wrigley]

I'm going to have to re-read that section in context. I believe you are grasping at your conclusion from that sentence.

I'm starting to wonder if you see attacks on the RC church in all corners.

[Wrigley]

But in spite of these clear declarations from heaven, certain men came into the churches and persisted in teaching the same coded law of Moses. At the Council of Nicea, called by the Roman Emperor Constantine, his bishops began the first "system" of Judao–Christian coded laws, to be expanded through the dark ages by Popes and their hierarchy of bishops; then modified and continued by the Protestant Reformers, –thence in all Christendom to the present day.The issue is not a question of right or wrong doing, but of the relationship under which we serve. All under every coded law serve sin to condemnation; all who are freed from the law now serve as free sons to righteousness and true holiness (Rom. 6:15–23).

Here is that entire section from which you sniped. Notice it goes on to say that these coded laws were continued and modified by the Protestant Reformers. Seems to me he is not only criticizing the RC, but also the Reformers for keeping these coded laws. He is in fact calling all those wrong, not the RC exclusivly.

[drstevej]

***I'm starting to wonder if you see attacks on the RC church in all corners.***

"You are not paranoid if they really are after you." - Woody Allen

[Hank Kerchief]

Do you ever run across Theological pieces in your Communion that don't attack The Pillar of Truth or is that the sine qua non of protestant theology?

No wonder you are able to swallow all that Catholic twaddle.

What in the world do you think Protestants protest? Of course it's a central subject to all protestant teaching. It was the indentification of Catholic Heresy that was the Protestant reformation.

This pillar your talking about is one of the five, isn't it? We don't have those in the Christian religion.

(This is a thin-skin test.)

Hank

[Hank Kerchief]

Bump for read. I think I will get grief from both sides on this one!

Well, this won't beat you up, because you didn't write it (did you)?

Actually, it started out very good, but it ended up pretty bad. So, we'll eat the fish, and through out the bones.

Thanks for the post.

Hank

[rwfromkansas]

This is utter nonsense......

[maestro]

This article is an EXCELLENT READ!

Thanks!

(bookmarked and printed out!)

Maranatha!
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[maestro]

Your#14)........

I don't know Woody Allen,...But, 'The Truth has almost Set him free'.............:-)

"You are not paranoid if they really are after you." - Woody Allen

You are a funny person.

:-)

[drstevej]

Thanks. Your posting style is shall we say... unique.

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