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To: Wrigley
He makes it sound as though the Catholic Church ususrped authority at Nicea. He is wrong and unBiblical in his criticism

Matt 16:18,19 "And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdo, of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoeer thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

The power of binding is exercised by :

1. refusing to absolve 2. enjoining penance for sins forgiven

3. excommunication, suspension, interdict

4. making rules and laws for the government of the Church

5. determining what is of faith by the judgements and definitions of the Church.

The author errs by ignoring the words of Jesus in the New Testament.

11 posted on 08/09/2002 3:26:36 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
I'm going to have to re-read that section in context. I believe you are grasping at your conclusion from that sentence.

I'm starting to wonder if you see attacks on the RC church in all corners.

12 posted on 08/09/2002 4:01:35 PM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Catholicguy
But in spite of these clear declarations from heaven, certain men came into the churches and persisted in teaching the same coded law of Moses. At the Council of Nicea, called by the Roman Emperor Constantine, his bishops began the first "system" of Judao–Christian coded laws, to be expanded through the dark ages by Popes and their hierarchy of bishops; then modified and continued by the Protestant Reformers, –thence in all Christendom to the present day.The issue is not a question of right or wrong doing, but of the relationship under which we serve. All under every coded law serve sin to condemnation; all who are freed from the law now serve as free sons to righteousness and true holiness (Rom. 6:15–23).

Here is that entire section from which you sniped. Notice it goes on to say that these coded laws were continued and modified by the Protestant Reformers. Seems to me he is not only criticizing the RC, but also the Reformers for keeping these coded laws. He is in fact calling all those wrong, not the RC exclusivly.

13 posted on 08/09/2002 4:07:11 PM PDT by Wrigley
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