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To: Jean Chauvin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/739777/posts?page=28#28 The above is where you say that "pre-mil is bonkers." In your last post about premil being the position of the church for the 1st 2 centuries you say: ASSUMING~ this is a factually true statement . It certainly is the position of Justin Martyr. Again the point of this discussion: "The premil position cannot lightly be dismissed as "bonkers." It is and has been from the founding of the church, a powerfully legitimate position. Just the lengths you're going to in arguing against it proves that it's occupied a large place in your thoughts and is on the short list of positions contrary to amillenialism against which you've developed a position. It is, IMO, the correct position.
26 posted on 08/28/2002 7:33:27 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins; CCWoody; the_doc; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Matchett-PI; sola gracia; Wrigley; RnMomof7
"It certainly is the position of Justin Martyr. Again the point of this discussion:"

You seem to be indicating that it was ~the~ position of the early church, as in the ~only~ position or even the ~dominant~ position. That is debateable. The Apostles Creed -the earliest creed of the Christian Chruch- is clearly Amillenial.

"The premil position cannot lightly be dismissed as "bonkers." It is and has been from the founding of the church, a powerfully legitimate position."

I ~clearly~ called Pre-Tribulational Pre-Millenialism "bonkers" (as in nonsense). Pre-Tribulational (Dispensational) Pre-Millenialism has ~not~ 'been from the founding of the church'! It was invented about 170 years ago and ~never~ existed before then! It is Historical/Classical Pre-Millenialism (which is ~not~ Dispensational Pre-Millenialism) which existed in the early church.

I ~clearly~ did not call Historical/Classical Pre-Millenialism "bonkers".

"Just the lengths you're going to in arguing against it proves that it's occupied a large place in your thoughts and is on the short list of positions contrary to amillenialism against which you've developed a position."

Since I have yet to see the Pre-Millenial position (any variety) laid out in Scriture, so I have yet to argue against it.

Interestingly, I keep asking for Scripture and you keep pointing me to Justin Martyr!?!

"It is, IMO, the correct position."

Then you should be able to ~clearly~ demonstrate it from Scripture -which you have yet to do!

Jean

33 posted on 08/28/2002 8:50:38 AM PDT by Jean Chauvin
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