[ultima ratio]

You see what I mean: they operate in tandem. They have little interest in any real discussion--they will only distort and hurl insults. What they actually want is to discourage anyone from openly agreeing disagreeing with them. I get private mail from people who say they agree with us, but don't feel like being put through the wringer by these guys. My view is they reveal themselves for what they are through their intellectual thuggery.

[sitetest]

Dear ultima ratio,

"You see what I mean: they operate in tandem."

* chuckle *

One might think similar things about you and Bud, and your sedevacantist friend, HDMZ, as well. But I'm not sure what would be the point.

Anyway, any chance you might answer Catholicguy's to-the-point question?

"What would be your reaction to this statement; 'Ultima and Bud oppose the normative mass just as Hitler opposed the normative mass when he was alive.'"

sitetest