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To: TotusTuus
So, since I come to a 10 and you come to a 10, what difference does it make which denomination I'm in. You said that knowledge could only come through divine faith. Apparently, the protestant version of divine faith is working just fine.

No incentive to switch in there.

And even if your belief that the church decided which books went into the canon were true (and I don't fully buy that)...but even if true....that doesn't mean the church takes priority over the words of the apostles once they decided which books are in the canon.

They can claim it -- but that's not the same as saying it logically follows from it.

For example, Newton discovered the law of gravity. That doesn't mean he was in charge of it thereafter.
101 posted on 11/18/2002 8:47:24 PM PST by xzins
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To: xzins
The Catholic Church has always venerated the Holy Scriptures - you can't venerate what is below you. Through the Life, Death, and Resurrection of our Lord Christ Jesus, God's plan for Creation (as recorded in the Holy Scriptures) proceeds with Christ establishing His Church on the 12 Apostles whom He chose with Simon, whose name He change to Peter, as their Head. The Church is His mystical Body and Bride, He is Her invisible Head. The Holy Spirit, the Paraclete, is Her very Soul. I suppose the biggest conflict amoung Catholics and Protestants of various stripes lies here in the definition of the Church - as if it were merely a human institution existing as any other.

I suppose my point is that Christ is united to His Church. She is the instrument through which He continues to spread His saving Gospel to the world. As per His promise to the Apostles to remain with Her to the end of time, and as per His promise to send the Holy Spirit to Her, She alone can authoritatively speak in His Name ("He who hears you, hears me") - the Name above all other names. Whatever conclusions I, or you, come up with individually are meaningless if they are separated and/or contradict His teachings through His Church. My existence as a Christian has no meaning except as being united to Christ's Church.

Hence the authority of the Holy Scriptures is known to be the Word of God, but only through His Church. Once we know which Books are in the Bible (and even here, there are slight differences between Catholics and some Protestants), who has the authority to correctly interpret them? Therein lies the problem.

I suppose that this is what the ministers in the posted article have discovered. Their whole view of the Church, which St. Paul calls the "Pillar and ground of Truth", has changed to the point that they recognize it as being more than merely groupings of people in different localities.

Our Lord meant for all His followers to be united in One Faith, One Baptism, One Church - because He is One. He did not establish "denominations". Hopefully, one day this will be realized.

104 posted on 11/18/2002 9:25:39 PM PST by TotusTuus
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