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To: Diago; narses; Loyalist; BlackElk; american colleen; saradippity; Polycarp; Dajjal; ...
Isn't this the same University of San Francisco that shut down the Ignatius Institute, the only genuinely Catholic part of the university? And aren't they the same ones that sent Fr. Fessio, founder of the Ignatius Institute, far away to be assistant chaplain at some hospital on the other side of the state?

If you check the links, you'll see that the Women's Clinic is just as bad as Planned Parenthood. And even the supposedly "Christian" counseling center offers "pre-abortion" counseling. Hopefully they try to talk the women out of it. But the pope definitively told the German bishops that Catholics can have nothing to do with facilitating abortion through "pre-abortion counseling," even if they claim they have good intentions.

These people seem to be just totally immune from any type of accountability. How can they get away with this? Maybe someone has a suggestion about how to apply some leverage.

It seems like it may be working with Loverde in Arlington. He didn't show up for his meeting with Fr. Haley claiming a scheduling conflict. But the protest by Roman Catholic Faithful was the headline story on the local news affiliate anyway.
5 posted on 12/04/2002 10:16:00 AM PST by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
Isn't this the same University of San Francisco that shut down the Ignatius Institute, the only genuinely Catholic part of the university? And aren't they the same ones that sent Fr. Fessio, founder of the Ignatius Institute, far away to be assistant chaplain at some hospital on the other side of the state?

yes, to both of the above. The California Province is the most decadent of all the S.J. provinces. The same province was also recently busted because some priests were molesting the mentally retarded kitchen help.

6 posted on 12/04/2002 10:22:17 AM PST by pseudo-justin
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In the late '50s,, a very liberal guy I knew at UT Austin got a job at San Francisco U. He was an ABD who called himself an agnostic. He wrote back saying he found himself right at home with the Jebbies. So It didn't start with VII.
8 posted on 12/04/2002 10:38:36 AM PST by RobbyS
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I'm waiting for Rome's apologists to tell me why it can't come down hard on these people--the way it came down hard on the FSSP--even firing their theologians and superior--only a scant year and a half ago--for not thinking with the "conciliar Church". Won't happen, of course. Any outrage is permitted, provided it doesn't involve traditionalists.
10 posted on 12/04/2002 10:51:25 AM PST by ultima ratio
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To: Maximilian
This problem of Jesuit abortion referrals is not limited to the despicable Privett, SJ, or San Francisco University, once Catholic and now merely Jesuit, but is also a problem right across from Cardinal Law at Boston College. They educated me but it is time to suppress the order as it was surpressed several centuries ago. Wait fifty years and start over with actual Catholics.
18 posted on 12/04/2002 12:07:13 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: Maximilian
These people seem to be just totally immune from any type of accountability. How can they get away with this? Maybe someone has a suggestion about how to apply some leverage.

Folks need to vote with their wallets and not send their kids to these institutions! A friend of our has had two sons go through a supposedly Catholic college, Fairfield U. in CT. He says neither one of them goes to Church anymore! Come to think of it, Fairfield is also a Jesuit Univ.; do I detect a pattern here?

BTW, Fr. Fessio is now Chancellor of a NEW Catholic University. It is Ave Maria University, and it will be built, along with a new town, also called Ave Maria, near Naples FL. It is designed to be a University with decidedly orthodox Catholic underpinnings. I hope it will be well supported by Catholics all over the country, but especially in the South!

22 posted on 12/04/2002 12:16:27 PM PST by SuziQ
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Maximilian, just to let you know: It may be called per-abortion counseling because some of the women are considering abortion, but it isn't the same as what was going on in Germany. First Resort counsels women on alternatives to abortion. If the woman decides to get the abortion anyway, they DO NOT refer them to a clinic. They stop about half the women they see from having abortions. They also have abstinence education programs for children and young adults.
35 posted on 12/04/2002 4:25:06 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Maximilian
Thanks for making clear that connection.
76 posted on 12/06/2002 6:41:13 PM PST by Askel5
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As a matter of secular argument, the societal practice of abortion is ritual mass murder upon the altars dedicated to idolatrous vanities, a collective sacrifice to pagan idols.

But isn't it nice, that as an atheist who sees abortion as ritual murder, I can debate the topic within the Republican party and actually have a voice on the issue? This would not happen in the Demo-rat party, where I would be forced into a lock-step with the annointed to support their idolatry of ritual murder on a pagan altar...
84 posted on 12/09/2002 8:59:09 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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