[P-Marlowe]

Doesn't that make Mary even Greater than Jesus? Does that mean that Mary has existed from all eternity to all eternity and that indeed she existed before God?

[Codie]

Was not Jesus fully man and fully God?

[Simcha7]

P-Marlowe,

You wrote...

"Doesn't that make Mary even Greater than Jesus? Does that mean that Mary has existed from all eternity to all eternity and that indeed she existed before God?"

8 posted on 12/28/2002 4:34 PM EST by P-Marlowe

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This Sir, is heading into HERESY.

Mary....Yeshua / Jesus' Mother was NOT and Will NEVER be DIVINE!

And...there Will NEVER be the Holy QUAD...ForgetaboutIT!

Anyone who falls into Maryology and the worship of Mary is an IDOLATER period end of report.

[fidelis]

"Was not Jesus "God" before His birth (John 1)? Was she (Mary) not a "chosen vessel" to bring forth the human manifestation of an eternal (2nd) Person of the Trinity? How could Mary be the mother of God when God had no beginning?"

"Doesn't that make Mary even Greater than Jesus? Does that mean that Mary has existed from all eternity to all eternity and that indeed she existed before God?"


1. Yes, Jesus was God before his birth. Jesus was also God at his birth. Mothers give birth. Mary gave birth to Jesus. Jesus is God. Mary is the mother of God.
2. Yes, Mary was a "chosen vessel" to give birth to Jesus. Jesus, again, was God when he was born. He was not merely human when he was born and became God later. Jesus was not merely a human manifestation, he was fully God and fully man.
3. The fact that a woman gives birth to someone doesn't indicate they are greater. Neither does a a person have to exist from all eternity to give birth to one who did. This is a straw man argument that sets up a claim that is not made.