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To: Jael
1 Tim 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of ALL men, specially of those that believe.

Did you catch that last part? Ever heard of common grace? That is all the verse is talking about. Besides, if Jesus is the SAVIOR of all men, everyone is saved. That language does not simply imply that Jesus died so they could be saved....it indicates they ARE saved if you take the interpretation that it goes against Calvinism.
51 posted on 12/31/2002 1:30:04 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: rwfromkansas; Jael; xzins
1 Tim 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of ALL men, specially of those that believe. Did you catch that last part? Ever heard of common grace? That is all the verse is talking about. Besides, if Jesus is the SAVIOR of all men, everyone is saved. That language does not simply imply that Jesus died so they could be saved....it indicates they ARE saved if you take the interpretation that it goes against Calvinism.

yes, the verse is speaking of common grace, that all men are able to be saved (since God wants all to be saved 1Tim.2:4 and died for all men 1Jn.2:2) that all are not saved is because men reject God not that God rejects them!

Thus, 1Tim.4:10 is a dagger in the heart of the heresy of Calvinism

571 posted on 01/04/2003 2:18:06 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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