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THE MORMONS AREN'T TAKING OVER THE PLANET QUITE AS FAST AS WE ONCE THOUGHT
Envoy Magazine Blog ^ | 1/2/2003 | Patrick Madrid

Posted on 01/03/2003 9:12:05 PM PST by Polycarp

THE MORMONS AREN'T TAKING OVER THE PLANET QUITE AS FAST AS WE ONCE THOUGHT

Patrick Madrid&Action

EnvoyEncore

Today: Utah. Tomorrow: die Welt?

This morning's Salt Lake Tribune has an intriguing news item about the real versus perceived growth-rate of the Mormon Church. For decades, Mormons have touted their Church's rapid growth as a sort of implicit evidence that it is the True Church. Gordon B. Hinkley, the man at the top of the Mormon Church, echoes what many Mormons will tell you: that theirs is the "fastest-growing" Church in the world. Not so, says David Stewart, a Mormon researcher who has compiled the statistics and shows that, far from being the fastest-growing, Mormonism actually ranks 23rd among 149 Churches and Protestant denominations ranked in the U.S.

Stewart's detailed analysis of the growth trends of the Mormon Church is fascinating but unsettling. Let's not forget that a large percentage of those who go into Mormonism are former Catholics. What a good reminder for us to redouble our efforts to explain our Faith more intelligently, defend it more charitably, and share it more effectively.

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1 posted on 01/03/2003 9:12:05 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: drstevej
Ping
2 posted on 01/03/2003 9:12:26 PM PST by Polycarp
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LDS Not Fastest-Growing

The Dec. 29 Tribune article, "2002 Utahn of the Year Gordon B. Hinckley," repeats the oft-quoted myth that the LDS Church is "the world's fastest-growing church." Though this may have once been true, it is no longer the case among even Christian churches.

LDS researcher David Stewart comprehensively addresses LDS Church growth in a paper located at www.cumorah.com/report.html from which I take the following statistics and quotes: "[The] . . . LDS Church ranks 23rd among the 149 participating denominations in overall U.S. growth rate . . . " and further, worldwide, "The Assemblies of God are growing at approximately 10 percent per year, or over three times the growth rate of the LDS Church, while the Seventh-day Adventists report growth two to three times LDS rates at 5.6-8 percent per year."

In fact, LDS Church growth rates have declined from 5 percent to less than 3 percent since the late 1980s. Additionally, the LDS Church does not adjust its membership tallies to reflect those who no longer identify themselves as members, or who are no longer actively participating. Were it to do so, its membership would drop by an estimated 65 percent to approximately 4 million participating members.

It is clear that the LDS Church is not the world's fastest-growing religion.

BRIAN JACOBSON
Provo

3 posted on 01/03/2003 9:14:18 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: CARepubGal; drstevej; Elsie; scripter
ping
4 posted on 01/03/2003 9:23:55 PM PST by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
A little more good news! Thanks! :-)
5 posted on 01/03/2003 9:31:44 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: Polycarp; Wrigley; CARepubGal
Welcome back RCFenix!

***Let's not forget that a large percentage of those who go into Mormonism are former Catholics.***

Any assessment of why ex-RC's are attracted to Mormonism?
6 posted on 01/03/2003 9:39:57 PM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej
Poor catechesis post Vatican II is my guess.
7 posted on 01/03/2003 9:50:46 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
"The cults are the unpaid bills of the church."
-Walter Martin
8 posted on 01/03/2003 9:54:13 PM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej; Polycarp
Exactly. The cults succeed only if and when the church (all of 'em) fails to educate, care for and support its membership. Those of us who slip through the cracks are prime targets for the cults. And the cults do all kinds of damage to the families of the followers by straining and often breaking these bonds. An alert ministry team/priest & laity can prevent most of the cult love bombings from working.
9 posted on 01/03/2003 10:00:53 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: drstevej
"Kingdom of the Cults" bump. Walter Martin's book was the first one I ever read on the cults.
10 posted on 01/03/2003 10:07:28 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: CARepubGal
Agreed!
11 posted on 01/03/2003 10:17:23 PM PST by drstevej
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To: CARepubGal
Important points, thank you.
12 posted on 01/03/2003 10:34:25 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp; drstevej
Oh and one more point before my brain shuts off for the weekend: All cults act and think similarly. Seriously! Check an ex JW, ICOC or Exmormon bb and there are a lot of parallel experiences found there.
13 posted on 01/03/2003 10:40:18 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: Wrigley
Thanks for the ping.

From the article:

far from being the fastest-growing, Mormonism actually ranks 23rd among 149 Churches and Protestant denominations ranked in the U.S.

Let's try to make it 149 of 149...

14 posted on 01/03/2003 11:21:10 PM PST by scripter
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To: drstevej
Ritual?

Strong 'Father Figures'?

Do it our way or else?

15 posted on 01/04/2003 3:37:41 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Polycarp
David Stewart did a much better job than the writer of the article of this thread.

From the article: For decades, Mormons have touted their Church's rapid growth as a sort of implicit evidence that it is the True Church.

The writer does not provide any support for that broad-brush statement. The Scriptures talk about many called, but few chosen, etc.

>> Gordon B. Hin[c]kley, the man at the top of the Mormon Church, echoes what many Mormons will tell you: that theirs is the "fastest-growing" Church in the world. Not so, says David Stewart, a Mormon researcher who has compiled the statistics and shows that, far from being the fastest-growing, Mormonism actually ranks 23rd among 149 Churches and Protestant denominations ranked in the U.S.

In this case, Stewart is simply telling us what the Glenmary study said, that the LDS Church is the fastest-growing among the large US faiths (those with more than 1 million members), and 23rd out of 149 overall, which says that the top 22 had less than 1 million members each. That was what I remember from news accounts at the time the Glenmary study came out, fastest-growing among the large US faiths.

From David Stewart's analysis:

For another example, a recent LDS Church News article entitled "Church Fastest Growing in Nation"101 claims that the Glenmary study "shows The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was the fastest-growing faith in the nation during the 1990s." In reality, the Glenmary study found that the LDS Church ranks twenty-third among the 149 participating U.S. faiths in overall growth rate, but first among denominations with over one million adherents. In spite of the fact that the U.S. LDS growth rate is only two-tenths of a percent above the world population growth rate and that the study does not consider activity rates, the ranking of first among U.S. faiths of over a million is still an adequately impressive finding without the need for sensationalization. One cannot doubt that this was an honest misunderstanding on the part of the anonymous Church News reporter, as the same headline that the LDS Church is the "fastest growing" in the U.S. appeared in some secular newspapers also. Yet this points to the need for us to be more careful and accurate in reporting our own growth.
You guys would be better off reading Stewart's comprehensive analysis than either the article of this thread or the Salt Lake Tribune article.

Regarding the word "cults" used by the usual suspects posting here, you guys have made it a meaningless attack word. In your frantic search for a cult under every rock, save yourselves some time and look in the mirror.

16 posted on 01/04/2003 4:27:03 AM PST by White Mountain
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To: Elsie
Your #15: Ritual? Strong 'Father Figures'? Do it our way or else?

Must be our sweet and gentle personalities overcoming the misrepresentations of our critics.

17 posted on 01/04/2003 4:32:36 AM PST by White Mountain
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To: Polycarp
Your #3:

This is what the article calls "an intriguing news item". It appears to be a letter to the editor, not a news item.

As I said, better to read David Stewart's own words than these "summaries".

18 posted on 01/04/2003 4:40:46 AM PST by White Mountain
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My #16: In your frantic search for a cult under every rock, save yourselves some time and look in the mirror.

You guys don't see a cult there? Well, there isn't one in the LDS Church either.

19 posted on 01/04/2003 4:46:59 AM PST by White Mountain
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To: White Mountain; Elsie
Must be our sweet and gentle personalities overcoming the misrepresentations of our critics.

Back when I was in Jr High a friend of mine had a dog. A neighbor of his hated it. He complained that it barked too much, and smelled bad. One day this neighbor laced the dog food with antifreeze. The dog died the next day.

Funny thing about antifreeze and dogs. It has a sweet taste that dogs love. But it kills.

Your sweet and gentle personalities that you claim overcome misrepresentations, is much like the anti freeze. Your doctrine that kills is laced with it.

20 posted on 01/04/2003 5:38:20 AM PST by Wrigley
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