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To: the_doc; RnMomof7
Hello false teacher, you ever wonder what it will feel like when God throws you in the lake of fire?

I think God should bring down hell fire on you right now, for leading all these folks into your false teaching.

Repent of your false and wicked ways, so God can forgive you and the false teachings of calvinisim that you so wickedly spue.

I'm taking your advise Mom, no more nice, come out of this false religion that doc has dragged you into.

BigMack

192 posted on 01/11/2003 9:11:20 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; RnMomof7; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Jerry_M; CCWoody; angelo; ...
I don't detect a big change in your spirit here (grin).

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Anyway, I think I ought to put you in remembrance that this Republic was founded largely by Calvinists. The overwhelming majority of the Framers of the U.S. Constitution were Calvinists.

This is historically inarguable. You musn't buy the revisionist histories which say that the U.S. was founded primarily by Deists. Gosh, it wasn't founded primarily by Deists, but primarily by Christians.

Furthermore, you mustn't buy the revisionist nonsense which implies that our nation was founded primarily by Arminians or even Wesley-style Protestants. It wasn't founded primarily by people like you, but primarily by people like me.

This is a historical fact. The fifty-some-odd Framers included three Deists, one Jew, two Roman Catholics, two or three Quakers, a couple of Methodists, one Lutheran, and FORTY-THREE CALVINISTS.

Notice that we Calvinists work okay with religious pluralism. But don't kid yourself into thinking that the Calvinists did not make their marks on American government in the Constitutional provisions they shaped. The U.S. Constitution is a Calvinist's document through and through.

Of course, some of the Deists we sometimes hear about in American history were not signers of the Constitution. Certainly they were influential with the signers. But then again, some of the most important Calvinists--like Patrick Henry--weren't among the signers, either.

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In any case, by consigning me to hell, calling for the fire of an angry God to fall upon me for daring to present the Calvinistic position of America's Protestant/Reformed forefathers, it would appear that you have committed a kind of religio-political blasphemy against the U.S.Constitution itself.

Think, man. For starters, you need to notice that you have gotten over your head in this one.

(Of course, no one is going to lynch you for your blunder. Ah, but you have the Calvinists to thank for that.)

193 posted on 01/11/2003 10:18:59 PM PST by the_doc
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; the_doc
I think it is always good to stand for biblical teachings mack...so pick a topic at issue and we can all discuss it
194 posted on 01/12/2003 5:29:17 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God)
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