1 posted on
01/31/2003 8:29:01 AM PST by
NYer
To: .45MAN; AKA Elena; Angelus Errare; Aquinasfan; Aristophanes; ArrogantBustard; Askel5; Barnacle; ...
I did a search before posting this article. If it's a duplicate ... many apologies. It's definitely a worthy read.
2 posted on
01/31/2003 8:30:30 AM PST by
NYer
(Kyrie Eleison)
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Great post. 3 cheers for Deal and for NYer too.
bump
4 posted on
01/31/2003 8:49:43 AM PST by
Siobhan
(+ Kyrie eleison +)
To: NYer
The expertise of laypersons is welcome in the Church, but it cannot undermine the authority of the bishops in matters of faith and morals.
BUMP.
5 posted on
01/31/2003 8:57:32 AM PST by
Desdemona
To: NYer
. Anti-Catholics say that sexual abusers are incubated in a hierarchical, authoritarian structure where there is no public accountability or scrutiny. But they don't really care about the crime anyway. For them, it's all about discrediting the Church because the Church says abortion and homosexuality are things to be avoided.
To: NYer
The most absurd premise one hears from people in this group (and others like it) is that married clergy would solve the problem - as if men who would marry would go sexually abuse teenage boys. At its base - the Church needs to dequeerize itself. Not all homosexual priests are teenage boy molestors, but a significant fraction of them are. There is no fundamental reason that a man with a severe sexual disorder should be a priest. The Church must decide - put the safety of boys first (and the trust that parents and children should have with priests), or, alternatively, to put the importanc of ordaining sexually disordered men above that of the safety (spiritual and physical) of teenage boys and their families.
To: NYer
Priestly celibacy is the most visible reminder that the Catholic Church stills believes in a truth that is not subject to public opinion or the democratic process. Indeed.
To: NYer
You post so many wonderful,informative articles. Thanks!!
To: NYer
Bishop Gregorys decision to create a National Review Board was an important step, both symbolically and substantially, toward bringing bishops closer to lay experts who have not been complicit in the bad decisions of the past. (Its regrettable that some bishops have taken umbrage at some of Governor Keatings commentsthe board is doing good work, and we need to move on.) Egan in New York publicly and intentionally snubbed the Lay Review Board; he wouldn't say Mass for them, nor would he allow any of his auxiliaries to, either.
Egan's got skeletons, and he's scared to death of the other shoes that will drop in his direction.
What a childish, churlish man!
12 posted on
01/31/2003 9:39:08 AM PST by
sinkspur
To: NYer
What I find telling is that in any article discussing what the teaching on the Church should be on a matter, neither side ever quotes scripture.
In this case neither the pro-celibacy nor the pro-marriage proponents look to the Bible for guidance.
??????
Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
When the representatives of the Church (Paul and Silas) taught the Bereans, the Bereans looked to the scriptures for themselves to find out if the teaching was true. The scriptures were their ultimate guide, not the leaders of the Church. God called this "noble."
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