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George Bush's Theology: Does President Believe He Has Divine Mandate?
Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life ^ | February 12, 2003 | Deborah Caldwell

Posted on 02/12/2003 8:35:27 PM PST by rwfromkansas

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I was surprised that this entire article wasn't just a bash Bush fest since it was posted on Beliefnet originally. It is a very interesting article.
1 posted on 02/12/2003 8:35:28 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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read later
2 posted on 02/12/2003 9:41:41 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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<> Our Chiliastic Commander in Chief is the biggest threat to world peace. His binary,Manichaean, weltanschauung is truly frightening. He actually believes he is the instrument of God in this world and, more and more, he is adopting the "good guys" vs. the "bad guys" approach.

The "good guys" can do what they desire in opposing the "bad guys" because the "ridding-the-world-of-the bad-guys" end justifies the "War of agression" means.

The world is a very complicated place and we all are burdened with original sin yet listen to our dufus Dubya (yes, I do think he is dumb) trying to convince us the mantle of God is upon his shoulders and he was chosen to liberate the entire planet. This is pure madness. In better days, someone would have thrown a net over the loon.

Nineveh was saved by fasting and prayer. Put down your forks and hit your knees....This nutball already has us bogged-down in Afghanistan (how many thousands of innocents were killed in that Unjust War?) we are about to launch an UnJust War in Iraq (Our sanctions have already accounted for over 500,000 deaths of innocent Iraqis and we have 200,000 disabled Vets from Daddy's first Gulf War), the War Criminal Sharon wants us to take out Iran after Iraq (any bets we won't?)and we have a president that struts about as though he were mini-Mussolini and he personalises disagreements with other world leaders (Saddam and Korea's Kim)and I listen to Dubya talk trash to them and about them and I think, "What the Hell is this, the World Wide Wrestling Federation?"

Dubya READ THE CONSTITUTION you one-termer. You have NO authority to do what you are doing. (The Congress has NOBODY with a lick of courage to stand-up to this madman and tell him to go to Hell. Congress has the duty to declare war))You are ruining the economy, (Nice budget, what about the war? Think that'll cost a few dollars?) dragging us up to the gates of Hell and while you are too puffed-up with pride to notice Cerebus nipping at your heels, your soldiers are slowly sinking in the quagmire in Afghanistan (What, you thought we'd "win" there? Russia, right next door couldn't) and you are about to endanger both Iraqi and American souls with this foolhardy war for oil and currency (which will prevail, the dollar or the Euro? Follow the money...).

"War President" my ass. When YOU were in the National Guard (to duck Vietnam), you were AWOL for over a year. Chickenenhawk. The same goes for your entire damn cabinet, 'cept Powell. Same goes for Rush and the rest of the war-rabid, chickenhawk,neo-cons

And why was it ok for V.P. Cheney to do businesss with Saddam up until 1998 if Saddam is Hitler? And why was it ok for Daddy Bush and The Carlyle Group to be doing business with the Bin Laden Family in Saudi Arabia even after 911? Why did you, Dubya, squash the CIA's investigation into the Bin Laden Family as soon as you became president?

Where did all those pilots/terrorists come from? Saudia Arabia and Egypt. Not a SINGLE one from Afghanistan or Iraq, yet, we bomb and attack them...

Speaking of Bin Laden (remember him? He was our NUMBER ONE PRIORITY,DEAD OR ALIVE right?), why did you, Dubya, do business with his brother in your first overseas business venture? A Christian cannot even publicly pray in Saudia Arabia yet you, the instrument of God,and your Dadddy, not only did business with them, you invited the Saudis to your ranch in Texas after 911. (I won't even mention your family raking in the cash while doing business with Hitler)Instrument of God? Yeah, and Rosie O'Donnell is spokeswoman for Weight Watchers. Hypocrite, liar, phony, dufus. "Our foreign policy must be humble..." Yeah, right.

You can instruct Powell to go and lie to the United Nations but you are not fooling the world. The next day his lies were unmasked. In citing "new information" about Saddam's chemical weapons, Powell was quoting from a TWELVE YEAR OLD THESIS WRITTEN BY A GRAD STUDENT. Good Lord. That was even easier to unmask than his lies leading-up to Daddy's First UnJust War in the Gulf. He said "Our Satellite intelligence, (sorry,can't show you, it is classified), shows over 1000 tanks and tens of thousands of Iraqi soldiers massed on the Saudia Arabia border." One little woman, at the St. Petersburg Times, purchased satellite photos from a commercial satelite and proved that was a lie.

Powell musta been promised the V.P. spot the next time around as the price for his public lies in support of your duplicitous actions.

You have been President for less thsan three years and look at what the hell has happend to our country....I can't fly without being harassed as though I were a criminal, our economy has gone to hell, our liberties have been reduced, you put the criminal Poindexter in charge of reading my Emails and listening to my phone calls, your crackpot Atty General puts a cloth over the Statue of Justice to hide her "nudity" while at the same time trying to lift the veil of the lawyer-client priviledge and he has already prepared a second "Patriot Act" ready to Goose-step through the craven Congress the next time we suffer a terrorist attack, and we are told to buy duct tape and plastic. This is madness...our country is being dragged into the pit and there is not a single conservative alive who can truthfully respond "Yes" in answer to Reagan's famous question; "Are you better off today than you were four years ago?"

Saddam has been boxed-in for more'n nine years with "no-fly" zones in the north and south. A Threat to the world? Puhleeze. We are the Death Star and Saddam is a guy on a goat with a grenade in his jock.

You know, when I read that Helen Thomas said Bush is the worst President we have ever had, I laughed. I ain't laughing any longer...<>

3 posted on 02/13/2003 6:05:45 AM PST by Catholicguy (The Empire, paradoxically, is weakest when it appears the strongest)
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4 posted on 02/13/2003 7:41:03 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Catholicguy
You are mentally deranged.

This is a great article and Bush's sense of purpose is a good thing. He understands that God appoints all leaders and this gives him a heavy sense of burden.

As for you, you can go take a flying leap off your high and mighty cathedral windows.
5 posted on 02/13/2003 8:29:15 AM PST by rwfromkansas (What is the chief end of man? To glorify God and enjoy Him forever. --- Westminster Catechism Q1)
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To: Catholicguy
You should have stayed on the sidelines a bit longer.

I disagree, vehemently, with almost everything your wrote.

I'm disappointed that, for a man who is so steeped in sound theology, you are so galactically ignorant politically.

Your paranoia suggests you're really a Bircher in disguise.

6 posted on 02/13/2003 9:02:58 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Catholicguy
We are chosen, as Israel was chosen. You're argument is with God.
7 posted on 02/13/2003 9:04:04 AM PST by onedoug
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Congress has the duty to declare war))

BTW, Congress declared war, back in October. The fact that you, and John Conyers, and Sheila Jackson-Lee missed it...well, that just shows you what kind of crowd you hang with.

8 posted on 02/13/2003 9:05:30 AM PST by sinkspur
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You should have stayed on the sidelines a bit longer.

<> No doubt others think the same. But, really, didn't you miss my perfervid polemics?<>

I disagree, vehemently, with almost everything your wrote.

<> Well, much of it is factual, so, I don't think you really mean that. I can understand you (inexplicably) disagreeing with how I deal with those facts though:)<>

I'm disappointed that, for a man who is so steeped in sound theology, you are so galactically ignorant politically.

<> That sentence was unnecessarily long. It should have stopped after thirteen words. Nevertheless, thank you for the compliment.<>

Your paranoia suggests you're really a Bircher in disguise.

<> LOL "A Bircher in disguise" would make a great song title.

I think I will post an analysis of the impending UnJust War against Iraq. It was written by a career CIA analyst. Of course, he may just be a paranoid Bircher too:)<>

9 posted on 02/13/2003 9:55:58 AM PST by Catholicguy (Follow the money. This is about Oil and Currency. Will the Euro or the Dollar triumph?)
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To: rwfromkansas
You are mentally deranged.

This is a great article and Bush's sense of purpose is a good thing. He understands that God appoints all leaders and this gives him a heavy sense of burden.

<> Your arguement that God appoints all leaders would mean that God chose Hitler, Stalin, Mao, ect. I don't think you really meant to say that<>

As for you, you can go take a flying leap off your high and mighty cathedral windows

<> I would - except - my mental derangement includes the fear of heights<>

10 posted on 02/13/2003 10:02:34 AM PST by Catholicguy (Follow the money. This is about Oil and Currency. Will the Euro or the Dollar triumph?)
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<> No, they didn't. I know Rush thinks they did, but they didn't

BTW, keep yourself safe in Texas. I pray we detect any attempt to bring terror to America and part of my, paranoia, is that Texas - prolly Dallas - would be a likely place for terrorists to strike; it being Dubya's home state, its connection with oil ect<>

11 posted on 02/13/2003 10:06:50 AM PST by Catholicguy (Follow the money. This is about Oil and Currency. Will the Euro or the Dollar triumph?)
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I think I will post an analysis of the impending UnJust War against Iraq.

Save the bandwidth. He's likely a Scott-Ritter-wannabe, anxious for some publicity.

Seriously, though, the fact that you think our action against the Taliban was also an "Unjust War" makes you a genuine peacenik. Even the Pope approved of that war.

"Peace and love" is a quaint, naive notion, unless you're in kindergarten.

12 posted on 02/13/2003 10:08:14 AM PST by sinkspur
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http://www.counterpunch.org/tomchick02122003.html

<>. Link to column (with sources provided)that blows away Colin Powell's fog of war rationale that, sadly, obscured the truth before our eyes.(The greater one's sources of news the fewer the times one exposes themselves to being legitimately labelled galactically ignorant).<>
13 posted on 02/13/2003 10:25:55 AM PST by Catholicguy (Follow the money. This is about Oil and Currency. Will the Euro or the Dollar triumph?)
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http://www.counterpunch.org/christison02082003.html

<> Link to former CIA officer's analysis of Iraq War. I pray that others, currently in the CIA,FBI, Military, ect begin talking. The wars between the intelligence community and the Bushies is getting serious. Their intelligence is being politicised by this Chiliastic cretin and the resulting internecine war is burting through to public consciousness<>
14 posted on 02/13/2003 10:35:08 AM PST by Catholicguy (Follow the money. This is about Oil and Currency. Will the Euro or the Dollar triumph?)
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Good heavens! COUNTERPUNCH is a lefty, kumbaya, why-can't-we-all-get-along rag which would have us sit back and be killed by terrorists.

Sure, the article lists "sources," but so what? How credible are they?

This train has left the station, CG. You can stamp your feet all you want, but you're going to be surprised how quickly Hussein is deposed.

15 posted on 02/13/2003 10:36:28 AM PST by sinkspur (Those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those who don't)
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To: Catholicguy
Actually, Scripture makes it clear that all govts. are ordained by God.

But then, you Catholics have your own Bible with uninspired books and don't consider it a one authority.
16 posted on 02/13/2003 10:40:21 AM PST by rwfromkansas (What is the chief end of man? To glorify God and enjoy Him forever. --- Westminster Catechism Q1)
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I pray that others, currently in the CIA,FBI, Military, ect begin talking. The wars between the intelligence community and the Bushies is getting serious.

Really? I saw George Tenet on TV last night, and he's fully onboard.

The CIA is full of rogues; that's why they're in the CIA! They may be crying crocodile tears that some of their "sources" are about to be blown away.

Stockholm syndrome at work.

17 posted on 02/13/2003 10:42:05 AM PST by sinkspur (Those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those who don't)
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Debate the man's politics don't demean his faith.
18 posted on 02/13/2003 10:49:54 AM PST by Codie
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Good heavens! COUNTERPUNCH is a lefty, kumbaya, why-can't-we-all-get-along rag which would have us sit back and be killed by terrorists.

<> I look to many sources for news. Counterpunch doesn't desire we let terrorists kill us. But they do desire to know why the terrorists attack (The intelligence communirty calls it "blowback") and they desire we stop growing enemies overseas that'll bring the terror home to us.

Do you ever think what you might be driven to do were a country more powerful than us declare publicly "We are going to take out George Bush?" and then establish "No Fly" zones over Texa, Arizona, New Mexico, and Connecticut, New York,and Massachusettes and then intentionally target and destroy municipal water supplies and withold baby formula ect ect ect.<>

Sure, the article lists "sources," but so what? How credible are they?

<> Well, the NY Times, Reuters, the BBC, the Washington Post ect used to be credible<>

This train has left the station, CG.

<> Yes, it has. And it is loaded with depleted uranium and weapons of mass destruction that will target poor, innocent folks in the Cradle of Civilisation<>

You can stamp your feet all you want, but you're going to be surprised how quickly Hussein is deposed.

<> I won't be surprised. In Daddy's first war, it was over in 100 hours and Saddam is MUCH weaker now. No, I will not be surprised. Those surprised will be the ones thinking this is all about "liberation" ect and when their granchildren are walking the line in the desolation of deserts in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Iran ect to defend the Empire's puppets,the surprise will be the sudden realisation that we were not "liberators" but, in reality, captives of a captious quagmire from which we cannot extricate ourselves .<>

19 posted on 02/13/2003 11:33:38 AM PST by Catholicguy (Follow the money. This is about Oil and Currency. Will the Euro or the Dollar triumph?)
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<> I was reacting to the horror of what his Faith portends for innocents on all sides of this Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace. Notice, he has said we will bring death to every part of the world. And he has said this will be a long, long war. Come on...this is the nightmarish dystopia of 1984 realised in our time and I find it both sickening and frightening such an evil epoch can be reframed as being the Will of God.

I do think he is a Chiliastic cretin, a Dufus Dispensationalist who is unable to clearly discern his Constitutional Duties admist the mephitic miasma of millenialism and I do think he is, if an instrument of God, one intended to punish us for our hubris, violence, pride, desire to dominate others, ect.

Which, is why I say...put down your forks and hit your knees. Fasting and Prayer is needed to drive out the demons in the Dogs of War about to be unchained<>

20 posted on 02/13/2003 11:46:31 AM PST by Catholicguy (Follow the money. This is about Oil and Currency. Will the Euro or the Dollar triumph?)
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