[RnMomof7]

First of all Kevin you need to know (or perhaps you do know) that all Calvinists are not "Covenant Theology " believers . It is not NECESSARY to hold the Covenant Theology view to be a Calvinist or an A mil believer..

A question to DCL..Is unregenerate Israel still part of the original covenant or did the New Covenant "disown " them

I have read on this forum that some Arminians even believe that Israel may have a different means of salvation ....highly unscripitual IMHO..

Kevin thanks for the bump back on this..I have decided to cut my FR time..but it is nice to have something to read when I do show up:>)

This is a Institutes 10 clean up flag

[ksen]

First of all Kevin you need to know (or perhaps you do know) that all Calvinists are not "Covenant Theology " believers . It is not NECESSARY to hold the Covenant Theology view to be a Calvinist or an A mil believer..

No, I didn't know that. I always thought that Calvinism and Covenant Theology went hand in hand. Thanks for the heads up though. ;^)

I have read on this forum that some Arminians even believe that Israel may have a different means of salvation ....highly unscripitual IMHO..

I've read that too, I agree with your assessment.

Kevin thanks for the bump back on this..I have decided to cut my FR time..but it is nice to have something to read when I do show up:>)

You're welcome Mom. I've got a bit of spare time now so I think I'll go get chapter 11 and post it.

[jude24]

35 ¶ Thus says the LORD, Who gives the sun for light by day And the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, Who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar; The LORD of hosts is His name:
36 "If this fixed order departs From before Me," declares the LORD, "Then the offspring of Israel also will cease From being a nation before Me forever."
37 Thus says the LORD, "If the heavens above can be measured And the foundations of the earth searched out below, Then I will also cast off all the offspring of Israel For all that they have done," declares the LORD.

- Jer. 31:35-37 [NASB]

God will never cast off Israel, whom He foreknew.

It's a huge mistake to confuse the spiritual Israel with those who are Israel after the flesh -- one which too many dispensationalists do. But it's an equally big mistake to confuse the church with Israel -- one which the amils often make.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Sorry i'm late to the Party mom, tough day at work, but a productive one.

A question to DCL..Is unregenerate Israel still part of the original covenant or did the New Covenant "disown " them

Unregenerate "Israel" was already under condemnation, the same as unregenerate Gentiles. Let's not loose our perspective.

i do happen to be one of those who believe that the church IS Israel. It is the Israel of the Promise, and consists of Gentile and Jewish believers throughout all history.

If that bothers you, shoot me.