[Patrick Madrid]

"I'm sick of the 'neo and 'post-conciliar' labels. They are meant to be divisive."

I agree.

[ThomasMore]

I also agree. When the devil can't get us one way, there's always division as his fall back plan.

[ninenot]

Perhaps we should use terms such as "Historically Void" and "Historically Informed?"

I have spent well over 40 years in the arena of church music and can tell you without a doubt that, in general terms, FrR's thesis holds water in that area of the world.

It is now to the point where 'serious' composers simply will not bother to write for the RC Church (with a few exceptions, of course,) because if the music reflects what has been traditionally regarded as art (form, content, beauty) it's simply not sale-able.

BTW, I also have an interesting paper on the topic of art (graphic art) which bemoans a virtually identical split on the 'art world.'

Call it what you like: it's real.