[PFKEY]

There seems to be so much controvery surrounding VaticanII. Are there churches that function under VI and others that function under VII?

Is it possible to find one or the other depending on one's preference?

[Saint Athanasius]

You have to remember PFKEY Ultimate is a traditionalist SPXXer...

And I mean no slander towards Ultimate...

But he has different take on Vatican II... He thinks the Pope is wrong and has been wrong from Vatican II until now...

Vatican II was a binding council on all Catholics...

Ultimate doesn't like Vatican II, so he refuses to follow it like a lot of Traditionalist here on FR.

Ultimate goes to SSPXer mass that is in schism with the Church...

He will deny this, but it is true ... but you don't have take my word for it, I can send you some articles...

But I am not sure if you want to get into Catholic Church debates.