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To: As you well know...; sydney smith; Loyalist; ninenot
You have every right to suspect my motives in this suggestion for a separate Tridentine Rite. After all, I've railed against "trads" for months.

Well, I've taken some time away from the religion forum and thought about this conflict.

I just don't see Novus Ordo bishops acquiescing to a wholesale re-evaluation of the place of the Tridentine Rite in the American Church.

I'm not a big fan of Bishop Bruskewitz' style, but he seems to have achieved a balance, and is ordaining men to the Novus Ordo at a much higher rate than other dioceses. I'd be stupid to argue against success, wouldn't I?

Our friend ninenot tells us that Archbishop Dolan will have a class of 25 new men in the seminary this year. Now, Dolan is an ardent Novus Ordo bishop, but, as you've noticed, has allowed his priests to write an open letter about optional celibacy. I'd bet he would entertain a major effort from the advocates of the Tridentine Mass as well.

I've decided that Dolan is the model bishop: let a thousand flowers bloom. Some will die, some will thrive.

We've got a vibrant Church here, guys. We don't agree on the model, but we do agree that our eyes need to be fixed on Him who is with us, In His Body.

Let mutual respect prevail, and we'll All Be One.

51 posted on 08/30/2003 6:57:50 PM PDT by sinkspur (How about rescuing a Bichon Frise? He'll love you forever!!!!)
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To: As you well know...; sydney smith; Loyalist; ninenot; Thorondir
At the same time, I remain troubled by THE REMNANT, and its offshoots, who continually rail at John Paul II, and every emanation from the Vatican.

There's no dialogue with Michael Matt, so he needs to lash out to get somebody's attention.

I'm not conversant enought with his position to rebut it, but I wonder if a Tridentine Rite would satisfy his objections?

The spiritual needs of Catholics are paramount here, and a separate Rite would free those who favor it from the strictures of local bishops who want to shoehorn everybody into a particular process.

Now, Thorondir, I know you're going to question my motives here, and that's fine.

If we were sitting across from each other, my goal would be to admit that what you want is due you, from the Church, while eliciting from you an admission that this was a good faith effort.

There are no "sides" here. This is The Body of Christ, that we belong to.

52 posted on 08/30/2003 7:22:26 PM PDT by sinkspur (How about rescuing a Bichon Frise? He'll love you forever!!!!)
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To: sinkspur
I think you took time off the Forum and drank heavily. You're actually in a stupor, right?
57 posted on 08/30/2003 7:43:45 PM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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To: sinkspur
Amen
76 posted on 08/31/2003 6:16:46 AM PDT by As you well know...
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