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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - M113 Armored Personnel Carrier - Nov. 2nd, 2004
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Posted on 11/01/2004 11:31:49 PM PST by SAMWolf



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M113 Armored Personnel Carrier




The original M113 Armored Personnel Carrier (APC) helped to revolutionize mobile military operations. The vehicles were able to carry 11 soldiers plus a driver and track commander under armor protection across hostile battlefield environments. More importantly, the new vehicles were air transportable, air-droppable, and swimmable, allowing planners to incorporate APCs in a much wider range of combat situations, including many "rapid deployment" scenarios. The M113s were so successful that they were quickly identified as the foundation for a family of vehicles. Early derivatives included both command post (M577) and mortar carrier (M106) configurations.



Originally, the M113 APC was intended merely as a troop carrier-a means of transport. Doctrine stated that the infantry were to dismount and engage the enemy. It soon became apparent that the firepower of the .50-caliber machine gun, coupled with the vehicle's armor protection and mobility, produced a shock effect on the enemy. Some advisers and commanders realized that since the Viet Cong had no effective weapons to fight armor the M113 could be used as a mounted armored fighting vehicle.



Perhaps the best way to judge the success of the M113 is to examine the enemy reaction to it. The Viet Cong were not prepared for M113's when the South Vietnamese first used them in mid-1962. The Viet Cong doctrine stressed occupation of dug-in positions in the face of APC assaults, and enemy soldiers were soon learning crude methods of destroying the M113. Holes the size of an APC, nicknamed tiger traps by advisers, were soon found in delta roads. Observing the difficulties that APC units had in crossing canals, the Viet Cong used canals as obstacles in their positions, and frequently they mined possible crossing sites.

In 1965 the Viet Cong published a comprehensive and fairly accurate training document entitled Attack on M113 APC. This document listed characteristics of the APC; organization, equipment, and strength of mechanized units; tactics used by APC units; methods of attacking an APC; and some training techniques. Included were instructions for using the new antitank weapons. In the spring of 1963 the Viet Cong had begun to use recoilless rifles with 57-mm. high explosive, antitank rounds, and the number of hits on M113's had increased dramatically by the fall of 1963. Although the rounds often penetrated, they did not usually destroy the M113. Late in that year, armor-piercing .30-caliber ammunition along with a large number of automatic weapons was found in a Viet Cong cache in the delta. The extent of the Viet Cong antiarmor equipment became apparent when, in August 1963, an armor-piercing grenade was discovered. The first 75-mm. recoilless rifle was captured in September, and in December the first M113 was damaged by a 75-mm. round. This arms buildup continued into 1964, when a variety of mines, both pressure and electrically detonated, accounted for the majority of damaged and destroyed vehicles.



By 1965 the Viet Cong was using armor-defeating weapons as low as company level among regular and provincial units. Newly organized weapons platoons, companies, and battalions armed with 57-mm. and 75-mm. recoilless rifles and .50-caliber machine guns were issued the rocket propelled antitank grenade, RPG2. For several years this weapon with its B40 warhead was the principal enemy weapon against armor. Eventually, the RPG2 was replaced by the RPG7, an improved antitank grenade with a more lethal warhead, greater range, and a better sight.



The Vietnam-era M113 ACAV (Armored Cavalry Assault Vehicle) version is a very important chapter in the long and proud history of the M113. Following lessons learned, in particular the loss of 14 ARVN .50 cal gunners at the Battle of Ap Bac in January 1963, the standard M113 was upgraded both in armament and armour protection to the M-113.



Two M60 GPMG's were mounted, one either side of the rear hatch, and fitted with protective gun shields. An FMC-designed armoured gun shield/turret combination was also added to the commanders cupola to afford him protection when manning the .50 cal machine gun. This vehicle was designated the M-113 Armored Cavalry vehicle (ACAV).



As a result of lessons learned, when the 11th ACR shipped to RVN their M-113's were fitted with the ew FMC gun shields and had additional M-60's mounted either side of the rear top hatch. The 11th ACR coined the term ACAV which soon became the 'official' designation of this modified M-113.

M113A1 Armored Personnel Carrier




The first major upgrade came in 1964 with the introduction of the M113A1 package which replaced the original gasoline engine with a 212 horsepower diesel package. The new power train was soon incorporated into the existing vehicle family as the M113A1, M577A1, and M106A1, as well as several new derivative systems. Some of these new derivatives were based on the armored M113 chassis (the M125A1 mortar carrier and M741 "Vulcan" air defense vehicle) while others were based on an unarmored version of the chassis (including the M548 cargo carrier, M667 "Lance" missile carrier, and M730 "Chaparral" missile carrier).

M113A2 Armored Personnel Carrier




Continuing modernization efforts led to the introduction of the A2 package of suspension and cooling enhancements in 1979. As with previous enhancements, these upgrades resulted in further proliferation of the FOV.

M113A3 Armored Personnel Carrier


Most of the M113 family that saw service during Desert Storm were underpowered A2 level vehicles. M113A3 that were in the conflict kept pace with the Abrams equipped maneuver forces. Since 1987 the PM office has been modernizing the M113 fleet to the A3. This block modification should be completed for FP1 by 2001 with current funding.



Today's M113 fleet includes about four thousand M113A3 vehicles equipped with the most recent recent A3 RISE (Reliability Improvements for Selected Equipment) package. The standard RISE package includes an upgraded propulsion system (turbocharged engine and new transmission), greatly improved driver controls (new power brakes and conventional steering controls), external fuel tanks, and 200 AMP alternator with 4 batteries. Additional A3 improvements, include incorporation of spall liners and provisions for mounting external armor.



The M113A3, a full-tracked armored personnel carrier provides protected transportation and cross country mobility for personnel and cargo. A light armored vehicle weighing 27,200 pounds, it carries 11 infantry personnel in addition to the vehicle driver and track commander. It is capable of sustained speeds of 41 mph on level roads and accelerates from 0 to 35 mph in 27 seconds (this compares to 69 seconds for the M113A2).

The M113A3 is a product improved version of the M113A2 with improved transmission and engine. The U.S. Army first identified the need to up-power the M113A2 carrier in the mid-1970s. This need was driven by increases in vehicle weight and a requirement to increase the mobility and survivability of the system. As a result, the "RISE" powertrain was developed and tested at Yuma and Aberdeen Proving Grounds. However, application of the new powertrain was deferred due to a lack of funds.



In 1984 a decision was made to incorporate the RISE package, improved driver controls, spall liners, external fuel tanks and provisions for installation of an external armor kit on an M113 chassis. Additionally, a bolt-on armor kit providing 14.5 mm ballistic protection was developed and tested. Except for the mounting provisions the external armor appliquÈ was not incorporated for production.

The new X200-4/4A hydrostatic steer transmission permits use of a more powerful engine, the 275 HP turbocharged Detroit Diesel 6V53T, and eliminates the transfer case and controlled differential. The RISE powerpack increases fuel economy, acceleration, hill climbing speed and braking capabilities and allows the vehicle to maintain speed through corners by accelerating the outer track rather than braking the inner track as on the A2. The increase in horsepower also allows installation of an external armor kit (which increases the gross vehicle weight to 31,000 pounds) and provides mobility comparable to currently fielded vehicles such as the M1 tank and M2/M3 Bradley Fighting Vehicles.



Steering is improved with an automotive-type steering yoke and foot brake arrangement which improves driver control, lessens fatigue and simplifies driver training from that of the A1/A2 steering/braking laterals. Due to load matching ability and increased steering capability, cross country performance is also improved.

Crew survivability is increased by the addition of spall suppression liners and locating the fuel tanks externally, on the rear of the vehicle. The inside of the vehicle (sides, roof and rear) are covered with spall suppression liners which limit troop injuries from the effect of overmatching weapons by restricting the spread of spall when a round penetrates the hull. External fuel tanks free up 16 cubic feet of usable space inside the vehicle and reduce the fire hazard inside the crew compartment. Two tanks and independent valving provide redundancy in the fuel system allowing continued operation when one tank is damaged.



External differences between M113A2 and M113A3 include external fuel tanks and provisions for the installation of an add-on-armor kit.

The M113A3 was type classified Standard. All new APC vehicles produced since 1987 and all converted vehicles since 1989 are the A3 variant. Vehicles have been fielded both in the U.S. and in foreign countries. The M113A3 was initially fielded in 1987 and U.S. production of new M113A3s was completed in 1992. M113A3s are currently being produced for Thailand as a direct sale. Conversion of M113A2 vehicles to M113A3 vehicles has been underway at United Defense, L.P. since 1994. Previously, conversions of M113A2 vehicles to M113A3 vehicles were completed at Red River and Mainz Army Depots, as well as in Korea.



The future M113A3 fleet will include a number of vehicles that will have high speed digitial networks and data transfer systems. The M113A3 digitization program supports the Army's Modernization Plan by applying applique hardware, software, and installation kits and hosting them in the M113A3 FOV. Current plans call for these systems to be integrated into the M113A3 FOV by the year 2006.

M113A3+/M113A4 Infantry Fighting Vehicle Light (IFVL)




The Infantry Fighting Vehicle Light (IFVL) is a light infantry fighting vehicle based on the proven MTVL chassis and featuring a one-man stabilized turret is convertible from existing assets or available as new production. It offers the exceptional automotive performance of the MTVL chassis combined with the substantial firepower of the stabilized 25mm chaingun and 7.62mm machinegun. The vehicle is powered by a 400hp 6V53TIA electronically controlled engine driving through the latest X200-4B cross drive transmission. The IFVL uses many common M113/MTVL components that help insure high reliability, availability, and maintainability, plus a proven design, common maintenance techniques and an established logistics infrastructure. Applique armor provides the flexibility to alter the armor package as the threat level changes or technology advances. The vehicle carries a crew of two or three and up to 10 dismount soldiers. As with all M113 variants,it is roll-on/roll-off transportable on a C130.



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The M113A1 is a lightly armoured full tracked air transportable personnel carrier designed to carry personnel and certain types of cargo. The M113-family was developed the from M59 and M75 which were designed by FMC (Food Machinery Corp.) in the late 1950´s. The vehicle is capable of: amphibious operations in streams and lakes; extended cross country travel over rough terrain; and high speed operation on improved roads and highways.



The M113 Family includes approximately 12 variants of light armored tracked vehicles used in a variety of combat and combat support roles. Total density exceeds 28,000. Today's M113 Family of Vehicles is composed of a mix of derivative systems consisting of the A1, A2, and A3 configurations. The current fleet includes: M113A2; M113A3; M106A2; M1064; M1064A3; M548A1; M548A3; M577A2; M577A3; M730A2; M901A1; M981; M1068; M1068A3; M1059; and M1059A3. Over the next 10-15 years, the majority of these systems will be converted to the A3 configuration.



Since their initial introduction in 1960, M113-based systems have entered service in more than 50 countries. The systems have been modified into more than 40 identified specific variants, with many times that number of minor field modifications. Many of these modifications have been developed by foreign governments to meet their specific national requirements. While some older M113 derivatives are being retired and removed from selected inventories, other FOV members are being upgraded, reconfigured, and introduced as entirely new systems.

More than 80,000 M113 Family of Vehicle (FOV) systems have been produced. New M113 FOV systems are being built while existing chassis are being upgraded to modern configurations.



The M113 APC was the first modern "battle taxi"; developed to transport infantry forces on the mechanized battlefield. It is fitted with a 2 stroke six cylinder Detroit diesel providing power through a 3 speed automatic gearbox and steering differential. The main armament is a single .50 Cal heavy barrel machine gun, and the secondary armament is a single .30 Cal machine gun. The M113 is built of aircraft quality aluminum which allows it to possess some of the same strengths as steel at a much lighter weight. This distinct weight advantage allows the M113 to utilize a relatively small engine to power the vehicle, as well as carry a large payload cross-country. The vehicle is capable of "swimming" bodies of water.

The Army says the Stryker family of vehicles are considered less vulnerable to small arms and weapons fire than the M113 family of vehicles. The crew and engine compartments of the Strykers are fully protected up to 14.5mm armor piercing (AP) rounds while the crew and engine compartments of the M113s are protected only up to 7.62mm AP rounds. Although a 14.5mm armor design was developed for the M113s, the armor was never produced and fielded.



For vehicles weighing 10-20 tons, tracked vehicles have better cross-country mobility in sand, mud and snow than wheeled vehicles, while wheeled vehicles have much better speed and ride quality over primary and secondary roads than tracked vehicles.

The vehicle is not mission capable if any one track shoe is damaged. If the M113 loses a track, breaks a track shoe or the vehicle throws a track, extreme caution must be exercised in maintaining control. The driver must immediately release the accelerator and let the vehicle coast to a stop. Applying braking action, i.e. brake pedal, laterals, pivot or any type of steering controls causes the vehicle to pull to the active or good track and could result in a roll-over. If it is absolutely necessary, the driver may apply braking action only, and only if the vehicle is approaching a ravine, a cliff, or if other catastrophic outcome, probably resulting in fatalities. When roll-over is imminent; it is safer to stay in the vehicle than to try to get out while the vehicle is still moving. Crew members may receive slight injuries from being thrown against metal parts, but if they try to leave the vehicle, it may roll over and crush them. Once the vehicle stops moving, the crew should get out as fast as possible because spilled fuel and oil may catch on fire. The first thing the driver should do in such an emergency is shut off the engine and turn off the master switch to minimize the fire hazard.



Initially nick-named "The Green Dragon" by the enemy, the M113 served in all areas of Vietnam throughout the war and was to become one of the most successful armored vehicles of all time. Unlike many other Army vehicles, the M133 does not appear to have acquired an official name or even a widely used nickname. Some advocates have indicated that the M113 is also nicknamed the "Gavin", after an Army general who was influential in the development of the M113 in the 1950s. This is not however, an official designation, and there is some question about the extent to which actual users of the system use this name. A similar point arises with respect to the M8 AGS, which some unofficially call the Buford, despite this also being an unofficial naming. One observer wrote that "In more than 30 years working in the defense industry, I have never, never heard anybody use the name “Gavin” for the M-113. Not in the US nor in any of the many countries that use the vehicle. Not in the military forces, not in the companies that build and equip it, not in the groups that retrofit and repair it. This usage appears not only to be “unofficial”, it is entirely fictional and I believe that you may have been the victim of a hoax or deliberate disinformation."
1 posted on 11/01/2004 11:31:50 PM PST by SAMWolf
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Future Concepts


Tomorrow's track combat vehicles will need to transit battlefields quicker, carry heavier loads, provide crew and equipment with increased protection and meet the digitization requirements of Force XXI and the Army After Next. Government and industry planners are looking at a number of initiatives to help insure these future capabilities in the M113A3 family of vehicles systems. The force structure for 21st century armored forces will keep much of the existing track combat vehicle fleet that are in the Army today. The challenge for tomorrow's Army will involve making the best use of future funding to improve capabilities and reduce limitations of the current vehicle inventory.



Due to its durability, low cost, and light weight, the M113 design is an ideal starting point for development of future light weight vehicles. Concepts ranging from rear drive M113 vehicles, to composite hulled turreted vehicles, to low observable alternatives are all possible given the baseline M113 chassis and components. Recent M113 concepts for the future include: the XM1108 Universal Carrier, the M113A3 High Mobility System, and the M577A3 "Stretch". These concepts, as well as other ongoing upgrade initiatives, provide the foundation for future modernization and the continued viability and utility of M113-based systems.



Regardless of the need and the timeframe involved, these concepts provide an effective, viable alternative to a new start production program for the chassis. This allows program funding to concentrate on maturing the target acquisition, survivability, low observable, and communications technologies needed.



In late 2001, as part of the FY ‘03-’07 Five Year Defense Program's Program Objective Memorandum [POM], the Army cancelled a total of 19 programs, including the Raytheon Tube-launched Optically-tracked Wireless Fire and Forget missile, the BAE Systems Advanced Tactical Infrared Countermeasures (ATIRCM), the General Dynamics Hydra rocket, the United Defense, L.P. M113 armored personnel carrier recapitalization, and the Tank Extended-Range Munition (TERM).

Additional Sources:

www.uniteddefense.com
www.gruntonline.com
www.tacticaltruck.com
www.israeli-weapons.com
www.diggerhistory.info
www.haaland.info
www.jodyharmon.com
www.cnn.com

2 posted on 11/01/2004 11:32:27 PM PST by SAMWolf (Red meat is not bad for you, Fuzzy green meat is bad for you.)
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The largest family of armored tracked vehicles in the world, the M113/MTVL family includes more than 80,000 vehicles worldwide and more than 40 variants. The M113 has been continuously updated to meet current battlefield needs for mobility, reliability, survivability and transportability. One of the most widely used combat vehicles in the world, the M113 family plays a role in the militaries of at least 44 countries.


3 posted on 11/01/2004 11:33:06 PM PST by SAMWolf (Red meat is not bad for you, Fuzzy green meat is bad for you.)
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Here are the recommended holiday mailing dates for military mail this year:


For military mail addressed TO APO and FPO addresses, the mailing dates are:

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For military mail FROM APO and FPO addresses, the mailing dates are:

Thanks for the information StayAtHomeMother



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4 posted on 11/01/2004 11:33:31 PM PST by SAMWolf (Red meat is not bad for you, Fuzzy green meat is bad for you.)
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5 posted on 11/01/2004 11:35:09 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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148 posted on 08/24/2004 11:39:45 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)

Cannoneer, stay safe. :-)
6 posted on 11/01/2004 11:36:08 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Good Night, Snippy. We're getting SHORT!!!!


7 posted on 11/01/2004 11:46:31 PM PST by SAMWolf (Red meat is not bad for you, Fuzzy green meat is bad for you.)
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8 posted on 11/01/2004 11:59:48 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Thank you, my first stop here. will be back, VICTORY!


9 posted on 11/02/2004 12:05:58 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (out of the sun)
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Good morning Snippy.


10 posted on 11/02/2004 2:13:38 AM PST by Aeronaut (This is no ordinary time. And George W. Bush is no ordinary leader." --George Pataki)
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Good morning, Snippy and everyone at the Foxhole.

Today's election day. Be sure to vote.

11 posted on 11/02/2004 3:02:51 AM PST by E.G.C.
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Treadhead and Election Day bump for the Foxhole.

Got mine in yesterday E.G.C., off to work I must go.

Hi manna !!!

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12 posted on 11/02/2004 3:39:35 AM PST by alfa6 (Meeting: an event where minutes are kept and hours are lost.)
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Good morning everyone!

13 posted on 11/02/2004 4:42:01 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~Poetry is my forte.~)
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November 2, 2004

Win Or Lose, Do Good

Read: Titus 3:1-8

Remind them to be subject to rulers and authorities, to obey, to be ready for every good work. —Titus 3:1

Bible In One Year: Jeremiah 27-29; Titus 3


When the results of today's presidential election are known, US citizens will either be glad or sad, depending on their political persuasion. Those who voted for the winner are likely to accept the authority of the government he establishes. Most others will submit, though grudgingly.

Christians are to go beyond mere submission to governing authorities and follow the guidelines given in the Bible. In writing to Titus, Paul said we should also be peaceable and considerate, and we should do good without slandering anyone (3:1-2).

Titus was working among believers in Crete, a place notorious for its unruly inhabitants. There were good reasons to say bad things about the people living and ruling there, but Paul warned Christians not to do it.

In fact, seven times in his short letter to Titus, Paul mentioned the importance of doing good: loving what is good (1:8), teaching what is good (2:3), doing what is good (2:7,14; 3:1-2,8,14).

Paul's letter is a timely reminder that as Christians we are to do what is good for people, regardless of whether we approve of their values and agree with their policies. It may not be easy, but it's the right thing to do. —Julie Ackerman Link

From the example of Jesus,
Who went about doing good,
We are to honor our Savior
By helping wherever He would. —Hess

Christians can be constructive if they refuse to be destructive.

14 posted on 11/02/2004 4:42:45 AM PST by The Mayor (The fires of life will not destroy you if you're watered by the River of Life.)
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Awwww snippy, I love the picture. Yes, The Sam and Snippy Store
15 posted on 11/02/2004 4:45:18 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~Poetry is my forte.~)
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On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on November 02:
1470 King Edward V of England (1483); deposed, murdered? by Richard III
1734 Daniel Boone frontiersman/explorer (US Hall of Fame-1915)
1755 Marie-Antoinette Queen of France, let them eat cake
1795 James Knox Polk NC, 11th President (D) (1845-1849)
1815 George Boole mathematician (Boolean algebra)
1810 Andrew Atkinson Humphreys Mjr Gen (Union volunteers), died in 1883
1812 Abraham I van Lier theater director (Gran Th‚ƒtre-van Lier)
1815 George Boole mathematician (Boolean algebra)
1822 James Byron Gordon Brig General (Confederate Army), died in 1864
1826 Robert Hopkins Hatton Brig General (Confederate Army), died in 1862
1826 William Haines Lytle Brig General (Union volunteers), died in 1863
1828 Byron Grimes Major General (Confederate Army), died in 1880
1847 George Sorel French Socialist thinker, writer (violent revolutions)
1865 Warren Gamaliel Harding (R), 29th President (1921-23)
1885 Harlow Shapley US, astronomer (studied the galaxies)
1901 Paul Ford Baltimore MD, actor (Phil Silvers Show)
1906 Luchino Visconti Milan Italy, director (Damned, Death in Venice)
1911 Odysseus Elytis Greece, poet (Nobel 1979)
1913 Burt Lancaster NYC, actor (From Here to Eternity, Elmer Gantry)
1914 Ray Walston New Orleans LA, actor (My Favorite Martian, Damn Yankees)
1917 Durward Knowles England, yachtsman (Olympic-gold-1968-Bahamas)
1921 Willaim D Schaefer Maryland, (Gov-D-MD)
1934 Ken Rosewall Sydney Australia, tennis star (US 1956)
1936 Rose Bird California Supreme Court Judge
1938 Patrick Buchanan conservative political columnist
1942 Shere Hite St Joseph Missouri, sex therapist (Hite Report)
1942 Stefanie Powers Hollywood Ca, actress (Girl From UNCLE, Hart to Hart)
1944 Jeffrey A Hoffman Brooklyn NY, PhD/astronaut (STS 51-D, 35, sk:46)
1952 Kate Linder actress (Esther-Young & Restless)
1953 Alfre Woodard Tulsa OK, actress (St Elsewhere)
1958 Bobby Dall rocker (Poison-Every Rose Has a Thorn)
1958 Willie McGee St Louis Card (1985 NL MVP)
1961 k.d. lang country singer (& the Reclines-Absolute Torch & Twang)
1963 Ines Diers German DR, 400m freestyle swimmer (Olympic-gold-1980)
1967 Darla Michele Pruett Canton Georgia, Miss Georgia-America (1991)
1975 Danny Cooksey Moore OK, actor (Sam-Diff'rent Strokes)
1990 Natasha Smirnoff daughter of Yakov Smirnov



Deaths which occurred on November 02:
1171 Dionysius bar Salibi author (Diarbekir), dies
1870 William F Brantly Confederate (brig-general), murdered at about 40
1887 Jenny Lind, [Swedish Nightingale], soprano, dies at 67
1950 George Bernard Shaw, Irish author (Pygmalion), dies at 94
1961 James Thurber humorist (The Male Animal), dies at 66
1966 Mississippi John Hurt Bluesman, dies at 73
1980 Edith Bunker dies on "All in the Family"
1980 Willie Sutton US bank robber, dies at 79
1984 Margie V Barfield, US murderer, 1st woman electricuted in 22 years
1991 Irwin Allen, US director (Poseidon Adventure), dies
1992 Hal Roach, producer, dies of pneumonia at 100 He was credited with discovering the legendary comedy team of Laurel and Hardy and went on to produce the "Our Gang" and Keystone Kops comedies.




Reported: MISSING in ACTION
1966 KLINE ROBERT E.---INDIANA PA.
1967 KNAPP FREDRIC W.---HUNTINGTON NY.
1967 MORROW RICHARD DAVID---SAN FRANCISCO CA.
[08/23/78 REMAINS RETURNED]
1967 WRIGHT JAMES J.---MERCED CA.
[08/23/78 REMAINS RETURNED]
1969 CHIRICHIGNO LUIS G.
[03/27/73 RELEASED BY PRG, ALIVE IN 98]
1969 CARROLL PATRICK H.---ALLEN PARK MI.
1969 NOWICKI JAMES E.---WINTER PARK FL.
[03/27/73 RELEASED BY PRG, ALIVE IN 98]
1969 PETERSON MICHAEL TERRY---REDMOND WA.
[12/10/69 SOME LISTS SAY REMAINS RECOVERED,RETURNEE ALIVE 1998]
1969 SHEPARD VERNON C.---TALMADGE OH
[12/10/69 RELEASED]
1969 WHITFORD LAWRENCE W. JR.---CEDAR FALLS IA.

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.


On this day...
0676 Donus begins his reign as Catholic Pope
1355 English invasion army under king Edward lands at Calais
1570 A tidal wave in the North Sea destroys the sea walls from Holland to Jutland. More than 1,000 people are killed.
1648 12,000 Jews massacred by Chmielnicki hordes in Narol, Podlia( the Ukraine)
1721 Peter the Great Becomes Emperor of Russia
1772 The first Committees of Correspondence are formed in Massachusetts under Samuel Adams
1783 Gen Washington bids farewell to his army
1811 Battle of Tippecanoe: Gen William Henry Harrison routes Indians
1824 Popular presidential vote 1st recorded; Jackson beats J.Q. Adams
1835 2nd Seminole War begins in Osceola
1841 Akbar Khan successfully revolts against Shah Shuja in Afghanistan
1879 In a 6-day footrace a Mr Weston loses to a horse, 900 to 885 km
1880 James A Garfield (R) elected President
1889 North Dakota becomes 39th & South Dakota becomes the 40th state
1898 Theodor Herzl arrives in Jerusalem
1892 Lawmen surround outlaws Ned Christie and Arch Wolf near Tahlequah, Indian Territory (present-day Oklahoma). It will take dynamite and a cannon to dislodge the two from their cabin.
1904 British newspaper, "The Daily Mirror," begins publishing
1915 1st US election by proportional representation, Ashtabula, Ohio
1916 Ft Vaux, Verdun, reconquered by France
1917 Balfour Declaration proclaims support for a Jewish state in Palestine
1917 Lansing-Ishii Agreement; US recognizes Japan's privileges in China
1920 KDKA (Pittsburgh) goes on the air as 1st commercial radio station
1920 Warren G Harding elected President
1930 Ras Tafari crowned Haile Selassie I, 225th emperor of Solmonic Dynasty
1934 Babe Ruth tours Tokyo Japan
1936 1st high-definition TV broadcast service, by BBC in London
1938 Babe Ruth applies for the job of St Louis Browns' manager
1942 Montgomery (Br) defeats Rommel (Ger) in battle of Alamein (WW II)
1944 Auschwitz begins gassing inmates
1947 Howard Hughes' "Spruce Goose" flies for 1st (& last) time
1948 President Harry S Truman beats Republican challenger Thomas E Dewey for the U.S. Presidency, confounding pollsters and newspapers (the Chicago Daily Tribune wrongly publishes the famous “Dewey Defeats Truman” headline)
1954 Charles C Diggs Jr elected Michigan's 1st black congressman
1954 JS Thurmond 1st senator elected by write-in vote (SC)
1955 Clarton-Schwerdt & Schaffer discover polio virus
1955 David Ben-Gurion forms Israeli govt
1956 Hungary appeals for UN assistance against Soviet invasion
1956 Israel captures Gaza and Sheham
1957 1st titanium mill opened, Toronto Ohio
1959 Charles Van Doren confesses, TV quiz show-"21," was fixed
1960 Penguin Books publishes "Lady Chatterley's Lover"
1962 JFK announces Cuban missile bases were being dismantled
1969 NFL record of 12 passing touchdowns, New Orleans Billy Kramer & St L Charlie Johnson pass for 6 touchdowns each
1970 Cleveland Cavaliers lose by biggest margin-54 pts (Philadelphia 141-87)
1972 Construction begins on the Kingdome, Seattle
1976 Former Georgia Gov Jimmy Carter (D) defeats incumbent Gerald R Ford (R) in race for Presidency
1978 Crew of Soyuz 29 returns to Earth aboard Soyuz 31
1983 Archbishop Hickey conducts papal investigation of Archbishop Hunthausen, Seattle
1983 President Reagan signs a bill establishing Martin L King day
1987 Entertainer Lola Falona is diagnosed with multiple sclerosis
1988 Computer virus strikes Pentagon, SDI research lab & 6 universities
1988 Mexican radio station erroneously reports Mike Tyson dies in car crash
1988 Walt Weiss wins AL rookie of the year (3rd straight for Oakland A's)
1993 Rudolph Guliani (R) elected 107th mayor of NYC
1993 A new series of wildfires swept along the Southern California coast, destroying more than 300 homes in the exclusive community of Malibu.
1996 Britain announced a plan to ban ownership of large caliber handguns.
2001 Eleven firefighters are arrested, and five police officers injured, in a clash at the site of the World Trade Center when hundreds of firefighters and workers protest a reduction in the number of cleanup workers (the reduction is soon modified to permit more cleanup workers on the site than originally proposed


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Israel : Balfour Declaration Day (1917)
Mexico/Portugal : Dia de Muertos/Day of the Dead
North & South Dakota : Admission Day (1889)
Venezuela : Memorial Day
US : Fig Week (Day 2)
US : Broadcast Journalists Day.
US : Double Talk Week Begins
Peanut Butter Lover's Month


Religious Observances
Ang, RC : All Souls' Day-Commemoration of All Faithful Departed
Christian : Commemoration of St Marcian


Religious History
1164 Archbishop of Canterbury Thomas Becket, 45, began a six_year self_imposed exile in France. Once a close friend of England's Henry II, Thomas had more recently become an outspoken opponent of the king's royal policies.
1600 Staunch Anglican theologian Richard Hooker died at 46. His last words were: 'God hath my daily petitions, for I am at peace with all men, and He is at peace with me... and this witness makes the thoughts of death joyful.'
1789 During the chaos of the French Revolution, the property of the Church in France was taken over by the state.
1830 A general convention of Methodist reformers opposed to the episcopal (i.e., bishop_led) form of church government met in Baltimore, MD, to establish the Protestant Methodist Church.
1917 British foreign secretary Arthur J. Balfour, 69, issued the Balfour Declaration, calling for "establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people." The document's recognition of a Jewish nationalism planted the seed which in 1948 led to an establishment of the modern state of Israel.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Thought for the day :
"On election day the promising season ends, and the excuse making season begins"


Childrens Impression of Love...
WHEN IS IT OKAY TO KISS SOMEONE?

"It's never okay to kiss a boy. They always slobber all over you...That's why I stopped doing it." (Jean, 10)


Children's stories that never made it...
Whining, Kicking and Crying to Get Your Way


Handy Latin Phrases...
Te audire no possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.
I can't hear you. I have a banana in my ear.


Redefining the English language
Circumvent (n.)
The opening in the front of boxer shorts


16 posted on 11/02/2004 4:45:49 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: SAMWolf
The reason for my vote today (AGAINST Hanoi John!):

Our family's M113 driver. Thanks, Sam for the post!

17 posted on 11/02/2004 5:03:44 AM PST by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; ehard; All
Happy election day, SAM, snippy, Foxhole crew.

Christian radio is promoting the election heavily in SW Florida, and reporting early long lines at the polls (with the promise that it will not keep faithful voters away). Update, minimum 45 minute wait today to vote.

                                                       - ehard's pic (now, the Foxhole's). (^:

18 posted on 11/02/2004 5:35:13 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: snippy_about_it; bentfeather; Samwise
Good morning ladies. Flag-o-gram.


19 posted on 11/02/2004 5:42:39 AM PST by Professional Engineer (One man = one vote. One Engineer = How votes shall I design the machine to give you?)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; All

http://www.rightsideredux.com/

Our Marching Orders! Watch the video.


20 posted on 11/02/2004 5:59:16 AM PST by Samwise (This day we fight! For all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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