And for the record, Mumia killed Philadelphia Police Department Office Danny Faulkner. For that, he is as guilty as Beck, and should meet with the same fate. It saddens me that some on here have made Beck as much a cause celebre as the leftists have Mumia. I have not noticed any outcry on here from Mumia fans. Guess he should have shot up an FBI or BATF office, that would have done it.

Sorry for the sarcasm and for the vanity of this post - but it truly sickens me how some of us freepers are so quick to point the finger and BLAME law enforcement when one of them makes the ultimate sacrifice. Beck is responsible for the carnage that happened. Law enforcement might have managed it better, but Beck set the things in motion by being a bad guy, and if you doubt that he is a "bad guy" - you really need to have your head examined. Some people actually think that LEOs are proud of what went down. That is just not reality.

Let's just make it the Beck/Horiuchi shrine so neither side will be offended.

Bonus points go to the next mention of "concentration camps."

Oh, now you've done it. You'll be accused of being a typical statist compromiser, for sure.

I don't care about Beck. I care about spreading Totalitarianism.

There is a small difference between the two "cop killers" you highlight. Bonus points and a gold star if you can guess what that is.

spreading Totalitarianism.

Reverse those words.

Lest we forget, Beck died after opening fire on law enforcement officials while they were serving a LEGAL WARRANT.

I thought I read in that LAT article that it was secret sealed warrant.

We don't even know that the Sealed Warrant was legal.

I must say that I have never heard of a sealed warrant. I have heard of sealed indictments. Why or how could a warrant be sealed?

As a fellow bootlicking, statist, socialist, nazi, supporter of totalitarianism (according to some posters here) - and rational person, according to everyone else who knows me - I appreciate your frustration.

Dittos to your post. I was outraged when I saw a picture of John Ashcroft looking like Hitler and law enforcement officials being portrayed as Nazi jack booted thugs. Although I said that the battle should be fought in the courst, the argument from a few was that it was an illegal warrant. If we individually determine the legality of a warrant, do we have a legal system?

Most of us on this forum want no new gun laws --- we want existing laws enforced. I want the guns out of the hands of felons but apparently some FReepers don't even want that.

You said 'freepers' are starting a joint fund, yet you don't link to where, or specify who is doing this.
Could it be you are just another of the big government authoritarian anti-freepers who applaud the loss of our constitutional freedoms?

Most of us on this forum want no new gun laws --- we want existing laws enforced. I want the guns out of the hands of felons but apparently some FReepers don't even want that.

i agree, doug.

seems like the friendly-fire is right here on fr.

i really try not to post on these threads (as oppposed to just
reading them), but hey, you made sense to me.

now, what kind of umbrella do you suggest for poop?

Beck is responsible for the carnage that happened.

BS Pal, you don't know all the facts and it wasn't this guy Beck that shot up the adjoining neighbors homes. I am not defending this guy but I will tell you, this incident was totally and completely out of control.

Mumia was killed in the comission of a street crime. Beck was in his own home.

Mumia attacked the cop. Beck was assaulted in his home. There is NO similarity between these cases.

"Could it be you are just another of the big government authoritarian anti-freepers who applaud the loss of our constitutional freedoms? "

Yes - that is me!