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Thobani accused of hate crime against Americans - Complaint sent to Ottawa police 'pure harassment',
The Vancouver Sun via DRUDGE REPORT ^ | Wednesday, October 10, 2001 | Glenn Bohn and Kim Bolan

Posted on 10/10/2001 3:26:15 PM PDT by vannrox

Thobani accused of hate crime against Americans


Complaint sent to Ottawa police 'pure harassment', UBC professor says

Glenn Bohn and Kim Bolan
Vancouver Sun

Wednesday, October 10, 2001

Sunera Thobani

A University of B.C. women's studies professor who criticized U.S. foreign policy has been accused of a hate crime -- publicly inciting hatred against Americans.

An unidentified B.C. resident alleged Oct. 4 that assistant professor Sunera Thobani violated the Criminal Code of Canada during an Oct. 1 speech to a women's conference in Ottawa, RCMP Corporal Michael Labossiere of the B.C. hate crime unit said Tuesday.

Thobani, a former president of the National Action Committee on the Status of Women, said in an interview Tuesday she had not heard anything about the complaint and she is curious to know who made it.

"This is just pure harassment," she said. "They are trying to silence dissent in this country."

Thobani said her speech was intended to explain how U.S. foreign policy has affected life in many countries of the world.

"If you point to the factual record of U.S. foreign policy, you are now accused of spreading hate," she said. "It really is unbelievable."

The RCMP's Labossiere wouldn't disclose any more specifics about the complaint or the complainant. He said he forwarded the complaint to the hate crimes unit of the Ottawa-Carleton police force, which has jurisdiction in the area where the offence is alleged to have occurred.

Ottawa police Detective Frank Corkery, a member of Ottawa's hate crime unit, wouldn't confirm whether police there are investigating Thobani.

Corkery said police generally don't discuss ongoing investigations or reveal the subject of an investigation until charges are laid and it becomes public knowledge.

However, the detective added: "Any complaint made to the hate crimes section is taken seriously and is investigated on the substance of the complaint.

Labossiere, who last week reported bomb threats had been made against Islamic mosques in Vancouver and Surrey, said he went public with the complaint against Thobani to show that majority groups can potentially be targets too.

"Here we have a complaint against someone who is obviously from a visible minority, whom the complainant feels is promoting hate," he said.

"Normally, people think it's a white supremist or Caucasians, promoting hate against visible minorities . . . We want to get the message out that it's wrong, all around."

Section 319 of the Criminal Code of Canada allows for a jail sentence of less than two years for anyone convicted of the "public incitement of hatred" against an identifiable group of people, when the comments lead to a breach of the peace.

An "identifiable group" is defined as any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion or ethnic origin.

However, the same section also provides some broadly worded legal defences. For instance, no one can be convicted "if the statements were relevant to any subject of public interest, the discussion of which was for the public benefit, and if on reasonable grounds he believed them to be true."

Murray Mollard, a lawyer and executive director of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association, said that, legally, a charge against Thobani would be an uphill battle for the prosecution.

Mollard also said the state shouldn't prosecute someone who criticizes public policies in a democratic forum.

"This is absolutely the wrong thing to do," he said. "We need to have an open debate about our response to Sept. 11."

Thobani received a standing ovation at the Women's Resistance Conference in Ottawa after she argued that the U.S. government -- not international terrorists -- is the most dangerous global force, "unleashing prolific levels of violence all over the world.

"From Chile to El Salvador, to Nicaragua to Iraq, the path of U.S. foreign policy is soaked in blood," she said in comments that received front-page coverage in Canada's daily newspapers, including The Vancouver Sun.

Many Canadians said Thobani's speech was an ill-timed and anti-American attack, while others accused the mainstream news media of a McCarthy-style witch-hunt.

Thobani said Tuesday she has been stunned by the reaction to her comments.

While she said she has received a lot of support, she has also been shocked by hateful e-mails and telephone calls not just from within Canada, but from the United States.

"It is just unbelievable what it is like," Thobani said. "I am just getting sent all this porn and hate mail."

She said the past week has made the controversies during her term as president of the National Action Committee on the Status of Women "seem like a piece of cake."

But, she said she doesn't want to restrict her life because of the hate mail and threats, even though it has disrupted her life and her job.

"I have security outside my class," Thobani said.

Convictions for public incitement of hatred are rare in Canada, but not unprecedented.

In 1982, Alberta public high school teacher Jim Keegstra was fired for teaching students that the Holocaust -- where millions of Jews died in Nazi concentration camps -- was a fabrication of a "Jewish conspiracy" that wanted to destroy Christianity. The courts later convicted Keegstra of promoting hatred and ordered him to do 200 hours of community service work.

In 1999, a Christian evangelist in Ontario was convicted of inciting hatred against Muslims in flyers he distributed and in a phone-line message. Mark Harding received a three-month conditional sentence and was required to perform more than 300 hours of voluntary service for the Islamic community.


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"I have security outside my class," Thobani said.

It should read...Thinks.


1 posted on 10/10/2001 3:26:15 PM PDT by vannrox (MyEMail)
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To: vannrox
"This is just pure harassment," she said. "They are trying to silence dissent in this country."

Bingo! The whole point in hate crime legislation.

2 posted on 10/10/2001 3:30:09 PM PDT by Random Access
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To: vannrox
You see, hate crime laws are only in effect when used AGAINST white heterosexual males. Why doesn't the white male oppressor who made the complaint understand this?
3 posted on 10/10/2001 3:30:50 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Random Access
Bump
4 posted on 10/10/2001 3:31:40 PM PDT by steenkeenbadges
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To: vannrox
The Canadians should send this woman packing. If she hates the West so much what h*ll is she doing here in the first place?
5 posted on 10/10/2001 3:31:56 PM PDT by Truthsayer20
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To: Coteblanche
What do you hear about this?
6 posted on 10/10/2001 3:35:21 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: vannrox
I wonder if anyone in America will have enough guts to follow suit?
7 posted on 10/10/2001 3:36:22 PM PDT by eFudd
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To: vannrox
"If you point to the factual record of U.S. foreign policy, you are now accused of spreading hate," she said. "It really is unbelievable."

Suppose I were to head up to Canada and give a speech on crime in America. In that speech, I make repeated references to the racial statistics of American crime- all factual, but without any contextual information. How do you think Thobani would react to that?

8 posted on 10/10/2001 3:46:15 PM PDT by timm22
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To: vannrox
Gee, I sure hope this wonderful woman doesn't get hit by a car or concrete truck or anything like that.
9 posted on 10/10/2001 3:56:22 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: Random Access
The audacity of this scum. I think the record will clearly show that Thobani and her fellow Kool-Aid drinkers are amongst the most vocal and visible supporters of "hate crime" legislation. They've used it, in its many forms, to succesfully stifle dissent from White Anglo Hetero Males, but now object to being hoisted by their own petard.
10 posted on 10/10/2001 3:56:22 PM PDT by Melinator
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To: vannrox
Give me a break. It is kind of amusing though.
11 posted on 10/10/2001 3:57:06 PM PDT by The Real Deal
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To: vannrox
One of the constants in life like death and taxes: mouthy kook feminists have a face and body only an X-Files alien could love.
12 posted on 10/10/2001 4:01:30 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: vannrox
ROTFWLPIMP
13 posted on 10/10/2001 4:07:05 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: Random Access
The only good thing to come out of this whole terrorism mess has been to see a new form of "PC" arise that is biting the liberals.

I am a free-speech absolutist, so I abhor all forms of censorship....but it is still satisfying to see the liberals persecuted by the same methods that they've been using to stifle ideas they don't like.

Someone should ask this Thobani broad if she stood up for Jimmy the Greek or Al Campanis.

14 posted on 10/10/2001 4:08:43 PM PDT by quebecois
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To: vannrox
This goes into the Oscar (as in Oscar Wilde) category of answered prayers. The left's favorite extremist neo-nazi hatemonger, Thobani, gets nailed on the left's favorite neo-fascist "hate crime" laws! TOO PERFECT!
15 posted on 10/10/2001 4:09:51 PM PDT by leilani
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To: Truthsayer20
I agree, send this vicious woman packing. Buy her a one way ticket to where she came from. I wouldn't mind harassing her some myself. Lynn
16 posted on 10/10/2001 4:47:39 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage
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To: Paul Atreides
Mega-BUMP!!
17 posted on 10/10/2001 4:55:35 PM PDT by opinionated
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<> Hateful e-mails and calls from a country you slandered mere days after the worst terrorist attack in its history?! You don't say! I'm also enjoying the irony of hate crime laws biting an ultra lefty in the heinie.
18 posted on 10/10/2001 5:16:17 PM PDT by lazypadawan
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To: vannrox
Wonderfully ironic to use a tool of the Left against a Leftist.

;^)

20 posted on 10/10/2001 5:18:49 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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