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The Breeze ^ | 10/11/01 | Peter Gelderloos

Posted on 10/11/2001 11:41:02 AM PDT by Captain Ugly

Student demands end to war

by Peter Gelderloos

Awash in the recent news of four United Nations humanitarian aid workers killed by an American bomb, we have yet another opportunity to consider the purposes and effects of "America's New War." Appropriately, the bombing in Afghanistan started just before the dawn of Columbus Day. Within hours, our television stations displayed glorified graphics reading "America Strikes Back!," reminding me of "The Empire Strikes Back" in George Lucas' "Star Wars" sextet. The mention of Star Wars, with our current president, unleashes a new wave of parallels between Hollywood and reality that quickly descends into overwhelming morbidity. And with CNN.com displaying interactive maps, mission folders and weapons profiles, the like of which I have only ever seen in computer games, I wonder if our nation has really considered just what it is doing.

Our military leaders proclaim the humanitarian angle of the bombing, mentioning that we have been dropping 35,000 food packages a day. For the life of me, I cannot see how these food packages have any realistic purpose beyond one of propaganda, to convince Afghans and Americans of the righteousness of our bombs. Even assuming an impossible 100 percent success rate in the high-altitude delivery of these supplies, the airdrops will feed fewer than 0.53 percent of the 7.5 million famine-vulnerable Afghanis, and for just one day at that. Even before we began killing U.N. aid workers, the ability of humanitarian groups in Afghanistan to support the starving population had been greatly diminished, far from the extent of what our airdrops might accomplish.

Every time I hear some politician claim that we are bombing Afghanistan for the benefit of the Afghan people, I remember our similar claims in Vietnam, where our government overturned an election on behalf of the French colonists, then preceded to bomb, shoot and starve to death over two million Vietnamese men, women and children, all the while saying it was for their own good.

Due in part to America's war in Vietnam, the entire Indochina Peninsula, with the exception of Thailand, went to communism, albeit a much more militaristic and dictatorial form of communism than might have developed had the situations of their birth been less brutal. Will a similar effect arise out of our bombing Afghanistan? Protests in Pakistan and Indonesia lend credence to this precedent. The governments around Afghanistan, for obvious political reasons, endorse and support America's war, at the express disapproval of the majority of their people.

Already, this volatile mix, assuredly to the Taliban's benefit, has spread throughout neighboring countries. Even after just a few days of bombing, thousands of Pakistanis have engaged in running street battles with police and military, according to the Oct. 8 edition of the Washington Post. The fact that the police responded with live ammunition, killing and wounding quite a few, does not bode well for the possibility of any peaceful resolution; the Taliban, or similar forces, may spread throughout the entire region as a result of our bombing. To the north, Tajikistan still is recovering from a civil war, with largely religious motives, that left the country divided. Although a cease-fire was enacted, violence intermittently continues. It will not take much for the situation to re-ignite. Uzbekistan, which also shares a border with Afghanistan, was rocked by bombings less than three years ago, and the military government, which effectively illegalised religion, still operated on guard against local and Taliban-sponsored religious extremists when I visited that country earlier this year. How will we be helping that situation at all by increasing our military presence in Uzbekistan?

According to one of my friends in Uzbekistan, the bombings already are stirring up anti-American sentiments within the population, contrary to media reports about the world being united behind America's crusade. Aside from having a number of friends in Tashkent, the Uzbek capital less than 100 miles from the Afghan border, I also am vaguely acquainted with one of the two Americans being held by the Taliban, as she went to my high school. Some would say that this subjective connection would interfere with my ability to properly judge whether or not we should be dropping bombs, but I believe that if everyone had a friend in that area of the world, they would no longer be willing to declare that this bombing is in the best interest of those being bombed.

If people cannot, or will not, view our actions with a humanitarian interest, they still can look at the situation tactically and come to the conclusion that war is not the answer. The Soviet Union bombed Afghanistan for 10 years, losing tens of thousands of soldiers, killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, and doing nothing but strengthening the Taliban. With the current political climate as it is, our war on Afghanistan may only spread the Taliban, or similar regimes, to Pakistan, Indonesia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan, and it will do this with great cost to human life, American soldiers included.

There is yet another reason to oppose this war. It seems that the American freedoms we say we are defending have been the war's first casualties. Electronic communications have lost whatever small measure of privacy they once enjoyed; political dissidents are being called treasonous by many high-ranking members of the government; Tom Ridge, was appointed to the new Homeland Defense Council, which seems to be an institution that may mirror the "Red Squads" of the 1950s and political activists are being labeled "terrorists" under the FBI's new descriptions (which would have included Martin Luther King Jr., or even many of our Founding Fathers if they were still around).

In the interests of ourselves, our freedoms and all the people of the world, we must demand an end to this war.

Peter Gelderloos is a sophomore English major participating in a hunger strike to protest the war.


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I can't stand this kid. I just read at the bottom that he is participating in a hunger strike, too bad he won't have veggie burgers with extra sprouts for a while. And some people wonder why the locals hate the students. I hate what JMU has become.
1 posted on 10/11/2001 11:41:02 AM PDT by Captain Ugly
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To: Captain Ugly
Peter Gelderloos is a sophomore English major participating in a hunger strike to protest the war.

Maybe he can keep up his hunger strike for, say 40 days maybe?

2 posted on 10/11/2001 11:46:10 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: Mark17
English Majors are generally pretty worthless people, anyway. I think this moron can safely be ignored. He'll be flipping burgers after graduation, anyway.
3 posted on 10/11/2001 11:51:47 AM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: Captain Ugly
Peter Gelderloos is a sophomore English major participating in a hunger strike to protest the war.

Peter, get a life. Maybe you'll obtain a brain when you grow up.

4 posted on 10/11/2001 11:53:16 AM PDT by b4its2late
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To: Captain Ugly
Bumped and FReeped
5 posted on 10/11/2001 11:59:42 AM PDT by TheRealLobo
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
According to one of my friends in Uzbekistan,

Sure kid, we all have friends in Uzbekistan.

6 posted on 10/11/2001 12:07:45 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Captain Ugly
The Soviet Union bombed Afghanistan for 10 years, losing tens of thousands of soldiers, killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, and doing nothing but strengthening the Taliban.

The Taliban was not in power during the Soviet war. They were put in place by Pakistan after the Soviet army withdrew.

7 posted on 10/11/2001 12:13:23 PM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: Captain Ugly
I never say this - but don't blame this kid. I'm sure his parents are a couple of baby boomer mush heads and now he's in a lefto indoctrination camp misidentified as a college. He probably went to public school, so he's had a lifetime of lib brainwashing. Pity him, and know that there's something that will fix him right up - the draft.
8 posted on 10/11/2001 12:16:18 PM PDT by motexva
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To: Captain Ugly
What a worthless bunch of gibberish. I would expect a more intelligent analysis from my dog. Grow up Peter, go to work for awhile at a real job, make a stake in this world worth fighting for, and stop being a mindless radical-left knee-pad boy. Another great victory here for the tools we let educate our children.
9 posted on 10/11/2001 12:19:41 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: Captain Ugly
There's so much stinking, steaming nonsense in this quasi-informed punk's rant, I could grow a geranium in my monitor. I don't know where to start. Maybe when I have more time.

The ignorance of the "peaceniks" is a sad monument to the continuing failure of the American education industry.

10 posted on 10/11/2001 12:24:52 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: Captain Ugly
Peter Gelderloos is a sophomore English major participating in a hunger strike to protest the war.

You can tell he's not history major based on his idiot rantings. He's just an moron leftist drone that thinks the angels are on his side so anything he says is morally superior.

Ignore the dope and perhaps he will starve himself to death if he really has any convictions.

11 posted on 10/11/2001 12:25:47 PM PDT by Fzob
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
Let me expand a little: The reason that I say that "English Majors are pretty worthless" is my own experience as an undergraduate Science major. The English, Sociology, Political Science, Education, and Psychology Majors tended to be people of limited intelligence, and few talents (except for bullshitting). They were just "hanging out", putting off that fateful day when they might have to get a "GASP!) JOB! Some of them were planning to hang around even longer, staying in Grad School well into their 30's. A bunch of Peter Pan's ("I'll NEVER grow up!").

Probably at least two-thirds of the college "students" currently taking up space in this countries "institutions of higher learning" are just wasting their time, and gobbling up taxpayer-financed student loans (which many of them will never make enough money to repay, anyway...)

The whole thing is a racket, run for the benefit of otherwise-unemployable academics and administrators- and Dept of Education Government drones.

Now, ask me how I REALLY feel!

12 posted on 10/11/2001 12:26:45 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: Mark17
Good. Let him go on a hunger strike as long as the war lasts. He'd better hope GW gets it done before his nasty butt dies. Punk. Lefty. Liberal. Democrat. Socialist. Pagan. Bum.
14 posted on 10/11/2001 12:32:44 PM PDT by RetiredArmy
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To: Captain Ugly
The Soviet Union bombed Afghanistan for 10 years, losing tens of thousands of soldiers, killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, and doing nothing but strengthening the Taliban.

This fellow really ought to do a bit more research. The Soviets didn't bomb Afghanistan for 10 years, they invaded and slugged it out with the Afghanis. We're not planning on doing that. Secondly, the Taliban didn't even come into power until 5 years after the Soviet pullout, so I'm not sure how the Soviet invasion strengthened them.

15 posted on 10/11/2001 12:34:05 PM PDT by Junior
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
Essentially, Peter like so many lonely liberal guys on college campuses, needs to get laid.
16 posted on 10/11/2001 12:34:50 PM PDT by Hamza01
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
He'll be flipping burgers after graduation, anyway.

Well, you are probably right. I mean, how many people are looking for those kinds of grads anyway? Not many, I am sure.

17 posted on 10/11/2001 12:35:15 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: RetiredArmy
LOL. Right on.

Retired Air Force.

18 posted on 10/11/2001 12:38:40 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: Captain Ugly
I hate to wander off subject, but what the flip kind of a "newspaper" calls itself The Breeze?
19 posted on 10/11/2001 12:39:38 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: Captain Ugly
I thank God every day for my son. He is 13 and watches the news (Fox only) with me every evening. We have a date set up to watch President Bush this evening at 7:00 CST. We have also watched Rambo III twice in the past month. He wants to view the terrain of Afghanistan in the hope that I will somehow manage to get him over there to fight. The boy is all American.
20 posted on 10/11/2001 12:47:33 PM PDT by Quilla
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